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Who will get liberation?

An evening satsang on the spiritual center of the navel (nābhi) and the path to mastery.

"Where you are, there is the center of the universe, and where is the center of the universe? It is within thyself."

"Lagutā se prabhutā mele, prabhutā se prabhutā dūr... through humbleness you get the knowledge of God."

The lecturer addresses a gathering, explaining the nābhi (navel) as the center of immortality and the source of the body's nectar. He shares parables about true mastery versus dangerous imitation, and tells a story of a saint who astrally projected to save a devotee, returning through the navel chakra. The talk emphasizes humility, forgiveness, and digesting negative emotions as core spiritual practices.

Filming location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Śānti, śānti, śānti. Salutation to the cosmic light, adoration to our divine masters. Good evening, dear sisters and brothers. The blessing is coming from a very beautiful place called Sunshine Coast. This is something great. The name is very great, but the atmosphere and people are also very great. Happy to see you all here, and especially thanks to our dear Yamunā, as well as Tyāgpuri. Tyāgpuri is just now preparing prasād. You know what prasād means? Some good eating, very simply. So, you had a very nice retreat last weekend. I had my own retreat. The body has some limitations, so I had to stay in one place. Yes, our subject is always yoga. It doesn't matter from which direction, from which way, which path you will come. Always, you will come to that same point. Any direction, any path, any way, you will come from the world; you will come to the Sunshine Coast, yes. Where you are, there is the center of the universe, and where is the center of the universe? It is within thyself. And where is thyself? That you must know, but your Self is somewhere in our body, and that's called nābhi. This is a Sanskrit word, nābhi. But you understand, you are practicing yoga for so many years. So the nābhi is the center of immortality. That immortality is the nectar. Nectar is the nectar of immortality, and that nectar of immortality is given to us by our Divine Mother. So when we were manifesting in the Mother's body, that nectar came from the divine source of the Cosmic Mother. And that is in our nābhi. Where? Yes. Nābhi is a beautiful name. Long ago, long ago, there was a master. There are many masters. You are also masters. Every one of us has some kind of quality which we have mastered, and so we are the master. If not, then at least we are the master of eating. True? Yes. And then I heard Umapuri tell me that the retreat had such good food. So at least there was, so we are the master of that eating. So the master was doing yoga practice. Yoga, which I always come and hear and talk about, is the cosmic connection. The space is the mother's body, the consciousness is the father, and yoga is that which unites the two together, harmonizing, balancing, and uniting. That is yoga. And there are many, many paths, different paths to the sun, sun and ghost. Actually, all the sources of energy in our body are connected to the nābhi. So one master, he had a siddhi. We are always hearing, that was a yogī, that was a master, that was doing this, but we don't see. But there are, there are, there are masters, but it takes a long time. If you want to become a professor and a surgeon in the hospital, doing surgery, especially surgery on the brain, it's not so easy. But when that surgeon has training, how many years, how many years of study from the kindergarten, from the, you call kindergarten, nursery school, till university and then further medical study, this, this, then that becomes such a surgeon. He can hold our life in his hand with the help of the anesthetist. So the science nowadays is very far, but still it is limited. So to become a master is not easy. I can tell you one story, okay? There was one master, again, there are so many masters. What happened here? So that master had a kind of technique, practice, like our dear Yamunā. She's always doing it with her hand and toes and this. She's very expert at pressing the thumb somewhere, and the patient said, "Oh, oh..." and she said, "Yes, yes, good." Oh, my God. So that master used to have certain techniques, and he had the power in his hand to understand what the problem was. So in Australia there are many elephants, the camels, you know, the camels? I heard that the biggest generation of camels is in Australia. So I went to see the camels from Adelaide to Uluru Rock. I didn't see one camel, so I don't know if I was on the wrong side. So there was some dry fruit, and the camel wanted to eat it. He had a big mouth, but it was a little bigger, and it swallowed it. It came to his throat. Now it can't come out, and it doesn't go in. So the owner of that camel went to that master and asked, "Master, my camel has some problem. What to do?" So, Master said, "Yes, what problem is there, why, friend?" He said, "Here, he has some knot in the throat, and he can't drink, and he has big pain." So the master came to the camel, and he was feeling the throat. He said, "Okay, let's sit the camel down." So they asked the camel, or gave him orders, to sit down. He was sitting, and then the Master holds his mouth, his nose side, and with his fist, slightly, in the throat, hits like that. And that dry heart, that dry fruit, rolled up. It came out, and what did the camel do? It began to bite. There was no pain, nothing. The owner of the camel was very happy. He said, "Thank you, master. Thank you." Now, the master had one disciple who liked to imitate, to imitate. And imitation is very dangerous. To know how, you need the knowledge. But that disciple, he was always looking at what the master is doing, and then he knows what to do. He said, "I am also an expert." One day, the master went to Badarī. Is there a Badarī here, you know? There is a city, Badrīn, and there is a very nice, mostly best ginger there. Yes? So I know a little bit about Australia, geography. Master went to do some work, and one minister came, the prime minister. He had such big pain in his throat. And someone told the master, "He just put his hand, and the throat will be okay." So the prime minister came with the people to that little ashram, very nice, like this retreat, which you like, your retreat now. Everyone will search the retreat in the Sunshine Coast, and they asked, "Where is the Master?" That disciple, he was just one, two years, imitator. He said, "Yes, I am here. What do you want?" They did not know if this is a master. That's a master. He said, "Yes, what can I do?" They said, "Our prime minister, honorable prime minister, he had a problem." In the throat, last one and a half months, and he's just swollen. He said, "Oh, that is no problem. I can treat it within no time." He said, "Oh, then he's, oh, Master, you are the great." So they said, "Yes, please do it." Say a moment. Let him lie down on the bench. So he was lying on the bench. And that imitator, he put his arms like this and held from here the minister's, and he closed his fist, and they all were looking. Bodyguards, is it? Don't worry. He hit on the throat, you know, the, what you call this, other up phone, is it? Oh, the minister was saying, "I will die, oh God." They hardly say, "No, no..." Moment to moment is still very hard. It's hooked here. They said, "What?" They held his hands and pulled him away. He said, "No, no. My master did it the day before yesterday, and it was a dry fruit in the camel's throat. It went like this and came out. So now I will do it a second time." It will come out. They said, "Yes, it will come out, his soul." So, imitation. Imitation is always dangerous. You think that you are a master now? You know what a master is, talking how a master is giving a lecture? How to sit and coming and sit? When a master comes in the room, everybody must stand up and then sit, and make a praṇām. That is not, that is not a protocol, it's... Not a protocol in the respect we just said. Yes, the prime minister will come, we will stand up. But the master will not ask you, "Do this and this and this." Master will say, "Please be humble. I will bow down to you, not you." That is a master. Well, imitation is always. So that one Swami, a sādhu, he had a siddhi. He had a siddhi that he could really go out of the body with his astral body. There are still some, there are still some. And there is also Trikāla Darśī, past, present, and future. They can see, but they don't open that chapter. So the master was there in his ashram. That ashram is very close to Devpurījī's ashram in Kailash. And his disciple was doing his seva, helping, and he was also learning. It was about 80 years; he is still learning with the master. And we are not practicing even every 18 months or 80 months. And we think we are the Siddha, I am the master of the masters of the master. Of what? Ignorance. So, we are the masters of ignorance. My dear, when your mango tree, here on Sunshine Coast, when the mango arrives, then the branches and mango are hanging down so that you can easily pluck it. And they are respectfully clothed, covered by the leaves of the mango. But there are some trees. They get the fruits, little, little. Leaves fall down and branches go up. That's it. That is the difference. So it is said, "Lagutā se prabhutā mele, prabhutā se prabhutā dūr, kiri śakār khā gayī, hāthī ke mukh ḍol." You understand Hindi, no problem. So if you are a humble laguta, laguta means humbleness, laguta se prabhuta mile, through that humbleness you get the knowledge of God. Prabhuta se prabhuta dur, but in the beginning you said, "I am the master, I need this and that," then you don't get anything. Like what? That was a competition. A little piece of sugar, a grain of sugar. How big is that? Little. So they said, "We throw this sugar in the sand." And now, the competition: who will bring the sugar corn? Only sugar cure. Competition was with elephant and ant. Elephant expanded his trunk and inhaled more sugar. What happened? So much sand went in his nose. Sugar also, but more sand. Then came Her Majesty. Who? Ant is beautiful. She was smiling and walking, and she just took the sugar and came here to give it to everybody. So, laguthā, humbleness, kindness, helpful, never say one negative word, a hard word to anyone. That is the highest. That is the saint. Higher thinking and simple living. Well, his devotee, 80 years, was serving his master. And one day, master and disciple were sitting under the tree and having some fruit. Suddenly, master said, "Stop, hold on, hold on." He said, "What? Master, what?" He said, "I am going into my cave, into my room. Close the door. The door is open; nobody should come in." He said, "Master, what happened?" He said, "My bhakta with the boat at the Sunshine Coast is stuck somewhere, and his boat is sinking. And he is calling me, 'Gurudev, Gurudev,' karke dayā dayālu, beda tu pār lagāde." O my Gurudev, please save me, rescue me. My boat is sinking. And how many? Thousands of years, different miles distance between India and the Sunshine Coast. And even one doesn't know where it is. There was no navigator at that time. But is it true? I am not telling any story. You can read in the books. I can give you one book written. Many, many stories are written about that. It's called the Bhakta Mālā. Mala, this is a mala. And bhakta, how many devotees were in this world? They were, they are in the mala of God's name. So how humble you are, how spiritual you are, how is your language, how is your attitude, how is your behavior, that makes you the holy. Not that you just sit down and meditate and meditate. And when somebody comes and says, "Oh, who is here?" I am meditating. Go out. He said, "You are not meditating." You are the ocean of anger. My dear, within us is the ocean of immortality. Within us is the fountain of joy, and within us is the bliss of the nectar. The divine life. So this was said by one of the great saints, Swami Śivānanda of Ṛṣikeśa. And in his Samādhi, it is written: love, serve, meditate, and realize. Love, serve, meditate, and realize. So love means kindness. Serve means whole day work. Meditate in the evening. That is your turn. Don't take the time of others. Then you will be getting liberation. Gurujī said, "I'm going. I will come soon." He went into his hut. It's a real story. You can ask anyone who is a saint, who knows about the saint's life. And he went out of his physical body. That's called yoga for body and beyond, so he went with his astral body. We did not have time. He came and he saved the people. He pulled the boat out, and the Bhaktas said, "Thank you, Gurudev." He appeared there, manifested. You think like a physical body. And then he disappeared. Now he comes back to his ashram. And what happened? He forgot. He was so quickly going out of the body, the nestle body. Now he doesn't know from which chakra he went in and out. So he's making rounds in the space. When the aeroplane comes to the Sunshine Coast, the airport has many, many flights. So the aeroplane is moving round and round until it gets the signal. Bhakta, his devotee, was sitting and he said, I feel Gurudev is here, and suddenly he goes also with the astral body. And Gurudev said, "I can't enter into the physical body." He said, "Gurudev, the same point through which you went out," he said, "I am searching for that point." He said, "Nābhi." And within no time, he entered through his nābhi, and he came alive. That's called a miracle, mystery, spirituality, or whatever you think. That is something, nābhi. And that nābhi is called Manipūra cakra. That nābhi is navel. So nābhi, navel, both begin with N. So there is immortality. This, what we call the solar plexus, that is very sensitive, very important, and all the immortality, nectar is there. From there, nectar is ascending with the prāṇa and apāna prāṇāyāma through all cakras, anāhata, ājñā, and enters into the bindu. Bindu is like a very big tank, where it is preserved, and that nectar goes to the Sahasrāra chakra and to the other parts of the body. Mostly, it is digested in the fire. Very rare sadhus, very rare yogīs, very rare practitioners, they can master it to gain that nectar from your maṇipūra-cakra, from the navel, which you read about your masters, yoga teachers, your book Yoga and Daily life, what is called the kuṇḍalinī and cakras and hidden powers. So the master came back and the master said to his disciple, "My son, your name is now Nābhajī." His name is Nabha, which means navel. That is that. And that is connecting to the pituitary and pineal glands. Prāṇa and apāna. This is a science of Kuṇḍalinī. When the kuṇḍalinī awakes, it's not like that you are sinking your body or saying, "Gurujī, come see, something is getting up." I said, "What? The kuṇḍalinī?" I said, "No, no, don't worry." But I feel something here, then go to the doctor, please. Awakening of kuṇḍalinī is joy, happiness, saintlyhood, very calm, very humble. That's it. Every negative feeling and negative thought, that yogī will swallow and neutralize. It will not spit outside for others, but digest in your Maṇipūra cakra. He who or she who cannot digest has no social education, no feelings of giving forgiveness, or understanding others. That you will swallow, try to put in your stomach, and what do you have always? All the times you have stomach cramps, stomach problems. But from the nābhi, there are these nāḍīs which are spreading. According to the yogic anatomy, in our body there are 72,000 nerves. And our, this modern medicine, they said, "No, there is no 72,000, so we don't want to make an argument." Good to say, yes, thank you. Oh, yes, thank you. Yeah, if it is there or not, if it is, go and count yourself, Hario. So it is said that all kinds of anger, hate, jealousy, greed, selfishness, krodha, passion, desires, all these are like many, many rivers coming together into that ocean. And so, all these, our qualities, collect in the navel, in the stomach. And from there go all these nerves. You can have back pain, you can have cancer somewhere, you can have cancer on the lower part of the body. It can create tension in the brain, in the heart. But the center is that, not from here. Here you have the tension as a headache, but it can be released only from the nābhi. And I think Umāpurī was teaching you about this vehicle, yes? Did you see? Yes. Yes, my disciples are very active, but the Master speaks, next time they are making. But it was very good, yes? And you felt that, so these are practical techniques. So, what is the best medicine? The best medicine is with you. And that medicine is in your intelligence, in your vivekā, in your intellect, positive. And there, in there, is one word called forgive. But Nabi doesn't accept. Nabi doesn't accept when you say, "Forgive." Okay, he will say, "Okay, go." But Nabi said no. Forgive, but you don't forget. This is that. Even the animal will not forget. And if not, even only in this life, the revenge will go to the next life too. So where the action is a reaction, and the reaction is an action, coming and going, that is called the cycle of birth and death. So we create more and more and more complication, so there is like a snowball. Have you everybody seen some snow? Who did not see? Okay, then come to Europe. So when a lot of snow is falling, the children play, and the bigger ones also. We take the snow and we make a ball, and then we roll it. You roll it, and the snow is rolling, and the ball is catching more and more snow. A small ball becomes so big. That's called a snowball. Similarly, this is an example. So that is within our psychic astral body, the growing more and more and more tension, and one day what happens is that we can't master it. Then it will explode in different kinds of emotions, maybe depression, maybe headache, many, many... Many things that you know much, much better than me. Yes? So the only remedy is with you, my dear. Understand. Understand others' pain. Understand others' conflicts, others' problems. Understand them and then give. Give, give,... forgive. And this forgiveness misunderstanding, after some time, it will dissolve in the energy of mercy and compassion, where it enters into the heart and melts into the Maṇipūra chakra. And so is that yoga for body and beyond, how we can become our own master. And my dear, the physical body is not immortal. Doesn't matter how much we will do, one day we will go. But we pray to God that we may go without suffering. We are not afraid of death, but we are afraid of how we will die. Can you imagine how a shark bites you? Oh God, one leg! Only the leg is broken; other parts of the body are failing. We die before she really bites us. We die because the water goes in the lungs, or out of fear we die. So pain, pain is horrible. We are not afraid of death, but of pain. Be prayer, be prayer, be prayer. And we shall try to get healthy food. But only food is not guilty. Mostly diseases in your each and every joint of the body, even the little toe has also how many, two, three joints? Second toe, third toe, fourth toe, and big toe. Only from there, and the whole fit. And how many bones do we have in the body? Over 600? No, 600! Can you try one day to put your one bone beside? Through meditation, no? So that is, that makes severed joints, then how many nerves? Seventy-two thousand. Then how many different kinds of bones and muscles? So this miracle of this body, all it can do for God and Mother. And so, the father loves the son also, or the daughter also, equally, or maybe more. But that feeling of the mother towards the child is completely different, because it is her own body. That's it. And so, the master and disciple are like that. That disciple is grown in the womb of the master's consciousness, his awareness. But if a misbirth is there, then in one month, or two months, or three months, it will die. So, we are getting old in the mother's body. We are getting old in the mother's body. How old were we when we were born? Approximately nine months. Nine months old, we are already. How was that miracle? Only we can, only we can admire that Prakṛti, meaning nature, and that divine self in which form even mother, consciously she doesn't know, intellectually she doesn't know, she feels so. That is something, a feeling cannot be explained. You eat all the time butter or ghee. Melted butter or ghee, but you can't explain the taste. It is very tasteful; butter is very tasteful. Yes, it's a little sour, and this is because it's still yogurt inside. But when you melted pure ghee, then you can't express what the taste of the ghee is. But it smells and tastes very good, but we can't explain. Similarly, that mother's love for the embryo is indescribable. Similarly, our mind, our consciousness, our emotion, our awareness, everything is beyond this physical body, and that is the science of yoga. So again, go to the book Yoga and Daily Life, The Kuṇḍalinī and Cakra, read that. Read one page ten times, then go to the second page. Don't hurry to read the whole book in one week, no. I have got one book, Dayalito, about our spiritual lineage, that our spiritual master was in the Satyuga, at Śiva's time in the Mahāpurāṇa. You can read. One poet in the Sanskrit language, 200 years before Christ, wrote about Alagpurījī. For 12 years, our Dr. Shanti was researching in the Himalayas. We found it. We found a cave, and this year I was there, and I stayed two nights there. It is indescribable. I think Dharamrāj was there on Pūrṇimā, no? Can you tell loudly something? How was it? ...experience some sort of energy there, isn't it? Mountains were so beautiful, so peaceful, beautiful, rushing river. It was everyone she had seen in her lifetime. And everybody will come. You should come. You can read about Alagpurījī on Google. Alagpurījī. You will read it. So there is a miracle. The Himalayas are a miracle, the Himalayas. The navel of Australia, the navel of Australia, where is that, you see? There is some energy. So the whole globe, the earth, it has been created, manifested with miracles. So, food: we shall eat good food, try to have organic, and try to reduce the diet. But reduce and digest your feelings. So to the child, the mother gives the feeling of her love. Mother doesn't give back that if the child, while drinking milk, kicks her with the little foot. What is the mother doing? She takes hold of the leg and kicks her foot. That's it. Like this, we should become mother. Is that the greatest divine? Of course, father is the life inside. About that, we will talk next time. So, wish you all the best. I was very, very, very happy to see you, and the next time will be as destiny wills. ARI OM. Thank you. Om Śānti, Śānti, Śānti.

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