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Holy places in the Himalayas

A spiritual discourse reflecting on a Himalayan pilgrimage and its lessons on grace, karma, and non-duality.

"All I have to do is be a bigger or lesser obstacle to things that are already done."

"If you believe or not, the poison will affect. So, Himalayan holy air, if you believe or not, it goes into every cell of your body."

Following a pilgrimage video, a speaker shares a personal realization about being a witness to divine grace rather than a doer. Swamiji then addresses the assembly, describing the Himalayas as 'Dev Bhūmi' (Land of the Gods) and explaining the spiritual significance of its sacred geography, including Lake Manasarovar and Mount Kailash. He delves into profound themes of non-duality, the nature of the soul (Ātmā), and the law of karma, detailing how actions through body, mind, speech, and wealth bind the human being, in contrast to other creatures.

Filming location: Vép, Hungary

Hari Om to everybody. As you know, we were in the Himalayas at the beginning of September. The journey was very rich and interesting, as you saw in the video. My experience, first of all, was regarding the camera itself, because all the time I had to be very concentrated on what had to be done. But with so many days, so many people, and the intensity of that place with Viśvagurujī, it was very beautiful to live. You saw in the video where we were and how it was. I was a little afraid of how I would manage physically and how it would all go. However, I have to tell you one experience that is always present to me and is very strong, and it is related to the video. Somehow, through all my travels with Swāmījī and all the things I have to film and do, it seems that everything is already done. All that I have to do is just to be calm and aware of the situation. Because everything is so fascinating, I very often have the impression that I don't give anything and that I don't do anything, and that I can only be a smaller or bigger obstacle to what has already happened somewhere, already guided. All I have to do is be a bigger or lesser obstacle to things that are already done. Because everything is under so much control, I just have to be careful not to be the biggest obstacle in what has already been done. At that time, I remember Swāmījī said a hundred times, "Who are you to give something? God is the one who gives." On this trip, I witnessed that truth so many times, and then I was trying to be as little of an obstacle as I could. So it seems that when Swāmījī thinks of something, somewhere it already happens. And we are the lucky ones as disciples to witness that, to see Swāmījī's wishes coming true. But we have to try to be, as I said, lesser obstacles, because we are not doing it; Swāmījī is doing it. The trip itself was very interesting, and we saw so many holy places and places of pilgrimage. It was very interesting; we saw a lot of interesting and holy things in the place of Raṇḍo. So I warmly recommend to everyone who has the opportunity and the wish to use it, because we will not have many such opportunities to go there, to see all this, and to be present, especially together. So if you can, if you have the possibility, I highly recommend that you come to be there, especially with Gurudev, because who knows how many opportunities we will have to do that. We are all a part of Yoga in Daily Life, and to be there at the source of Yoga in Daily Life was really a privilege. To be up there with Gurudev and with Satsaṅgī brothers and sisters was really amazing. For the end, the trip was a little challenging physically. When I came home after a few days and rested a little, I thought if there is a possibility to come back, I would come back immediately. For next year, the same trip is announced, and it is possible that it will also lead to the cave of Śrī Devapurījī. So, I invite you all, who of course want and can, to come with us on this beautiful, divine journey. Hari Om, good morning, have a nice day, and nice to see you. You heard a glimpse of the Himalayas. When you enter the range of the Himalayas, there is written 'Dev Bhūmi'. Dev Bhūmi means: Bhūmi means the land, Dev means God—the land of the goddess. One needs to feel it. As Muktānand just announced, if someone would like to go to Devapurījī's cave, that is four thousand and some hundred meters altitude, there you need more willpower. If you have a problem with the breath or heart, then you should not take the risk, and you should have a little training for walking. But in such high altitude, your training doesn't help. Those who are really running and jogging are there without energy. We need good saṅkalpa. We need good willpower. Positive thinking, and go slowly. Then you will achieve. They said it will take one week; it is 30 kilometers. Be happy if you can do five kilometers every day, relaxing, sitting, breathing. When you have a problem like this, less breath, the best is that you should first exhale. In my experience, last time there was more problem. This time, it was only once at midnight, about one o'clock, I was out of breath. I sat up and I exhaled, and I was immediately calmed down. So don't try, "I want to breathe more." First, empty. Like Ujjāyī Prāṇāyāma, this is in the mountain what you should do. Of course, we have an excellent, very expert guide there. So you can go some, and Muktānand will make a video, and we will see the cave without climbing up and down. So it's like we need some goodwill. We had 167 people, I think, including myself, 68, but no one had any problem. And we had three warm meals, good meals. You know that our people, when they get a good meal, then they are happy; then everything is okay. And also, many times tea, hot tea, milk tea, that's also very good, and then 24 hours hot water. The hot water was in front of my tent, so nobody can waste the water. If they take one cup of water, they have to put one cup of cold water inside. Anyhow, it was nice, thank you. So it's good sometimes to breathe the air of the Holy Himālaya. If you believe or not, believe or not believe, it doesn't change anything. But if you have inner faith, and if you have no faith, it still is affecting. There is a poison, but you don't believe. He said, "It doesn't matter; I can even drink the poison." I don't believe in poison, so don't do it, please. If you believe or not, the poison will affect. So, Himalayan holy air, if you believe or not, it goes into every cell of your body. And when we go with the spiritual thinking master, then we are all in one circle of energy that has its meaning. So, you must not be going every year. If you can go, it is good, but at least once. You know, people believe, and sometimes people say, "Swāmījī, should we do this or not?" Many times, the parents ask me questions when a new child is born. Now, the medical system said we should get the vaccination. Some are telling it's not good. They have fear. They said, "I don't want to give my child vaccination, but it's a law that you have to take." And they said it's only once, then whole life it is like that. So let us have the Himalayan air vaccination once. When you have inhaled, then that will function in us lifelong—not as a vaccine, but divine. So after, if you believe or not, it is in our system, in each and every cell of the body. It is giving further; when new cells are coming, they are getting that spirituality. There is one bhajan in Rajasthani language, written by one master, and people like this bhajan. This is when your language, your folk songs, because it's your mother tongue and you like that, so that bhajan is very nice. People like it, and many bhajan singers like to sing that bhajan. And, of course, they translate, they explain. But in the beginning, someone has to think over what it means. So, as the bhajan said: "Now, the thorn went in my body in satsaṅg. Now, this is irritating, day and night." You got a thorn in your body in the satsaṅg, and day and night, it is irritating. Then the bhajan is going further. So this means that this thorn, the injection of the Guruvākya, the Master's words, and now day and night it feels in you so pleasant. Your thoughts don't go to the negative things. This bhajan is beautiful. When we come to a holy place, if you believe or not, the air is gone in our body, we inhale, our voice changes, becomes powerful. So it's good to go to holy places, but don't make duality, only this is good. No, everywhere is not good, but it depends on how much energy is there and there. So that's what we call the Himalaya—very big, very big, thousands of kilometers, thousands of kilometers, and very wide on the India side, most part in India, Nepal, China, and a little Afghanistan, a little in the Pakistan Himalaya. It doesn't make a difference which territory it is. For a father, all children are the same. So the Himalayas are for all creatures, not only for humans. And the Mānasarovar, it's beautiful, a very holy lake. If you go there, you should dip in, dip completely in and out. In that time, you will experience you just born from the mother's womb. Yes, when you dip in, so cold, you will get in is like in the body of the mother. You want to come out quickly, and endlessly. So that is that Mānasarovar. Mānasarovar's meaning is different. Man is the mind, and Sarovar is the lake, so this is the lake of our mental, our mind, expanding as far as we can. And in our mind, there are thousands of waves, the vibrations, the thoughts, the vṛttis, swimming, fluttering. And the real Paramahaṁsa is living in Mānasarovar. There is one couple living there, but you cannot see them. It is very, very rare. Sometimes, many people saw it, and that's why it is said; there are many poems, many bhajans, and the real swan is living in Mānasarovar. And that they only eat the pearls. They don't eat fish; they don't eat living creatures. The pearls which came out of this shell. So, their nourishment is different. Now, our mind is an endless lake. That wisdom of mantras, your wise thoughts, everything that you have, that is the pulse. Every thought and every word that you speak is coming as a pulse out of you or going within you. Because only the Paramahaṁsa, only the wise one, Holy one, that one has the words; what is spoken is a real pearl. When we speak so wisely, like out of our mouth come the pearls of wisdom, the harmony, the love, like flowers coming, blossoms. So, and that Haṁsa is described as our Ātmā. Our Ātmā is that which we call the swan. Paramahaṃsa, which has they are together too. That's called śruti and smṛti. This is śruti and smṛti of that ātmā, and only it has the pure pearls of wisdom. And so, this lake is above our mind. So mind is great. And mind has no limitations. It can become endless. Nothing is quicker than the mind. Just you put your one thought, and your mind is before that, in that place. You think about Budapest, you are already there now. Already, that is, the mind is expanding. And so that is, that ātmā, that Ātmā is Śiva, and that is what we call the Mount Everest—not Everest—the Kailāśa Mount. And if you go there, and you will breathe, make a parikramā to the Kailāśa Mount, it is like a program around the whole entire universe. That is the Śiva consciousness. So this Mānasarovar, it is within the human life. We compare this, we describe this, we make songs, bhajans, and poetry out of this. And so, it would be good if, once, you can make the journey to Kailāśa. On that Kailāśa, no climber climbs there. Many cannot; it falls down. There is one Austrian guy. He is climbing in the Himalayas, and the Chinese asked him if he could climb Kailash. He said, "Thank you, no. It is a holy mountain; I don't want to climb on it." Also, often they don't let airplanes fly over Kailash. That is the seat of Shiva. A few years ago, I think nearly two decades, they said the first human was in Tibet. And Tibet is the Kailāśa Parvata. The whole Himalaya, the Himalayan king was always declared or always known as Śiva. Śiva is the king of the Himalaya. So that is the seat of Śiva. It is written in the stories that there is a palace and the king Śiva was there. But the Buddhists killed him, and they put a Buddhist as a king there. And that is now the 14th lineage, like the Dalai Lama. So what Dalai Lama is making, time to time, one yantra pūjā. So that was the seat of Śiva's. If the scientist tells that first human was in Himalaya, in China, then it was Śiva, because the first manifested was Śiva. Second, they also said, the scientists, there is no races. There is only one, that's called human. So it doesn't matter if it is a Westerner or someone from China or Japan or American, Mexicans, etc. The human is a human. No duality. No races, this and that. Now we come to this point that we said the Hindu religion said, the Vedas said, the Upanishads said, from ages and ages, that on this earth, around this earth, below and above, there are 8.4 million different creatures. And from 8.4 million, one is the human. And they do not divide humans into forms. Male and female? No. Not that. There is no difference in the Jīvātmā and in the consciousness that you call the... there is no duality of gender. So, 8.4 million different creatures, they did not divide male and female. If they divide the male, then how many are male? And how many are female? So masculine, other, feminine. There is no duality. So when you come to the ātmā jñāna, when you become that Paramahaṁsa in that Mānasarovar, then you also have no dualities. At that time, ātmā, sahih, paramātmā—that ātmā is the Supreme, the paramātmā. Each and every entity is myself, and myself is that ātmā. And that ātmā is Paramātmā. Therefore, there is no duality between humans and animals. Again, because the jīvā is the jīvā, the soul is the soul, we declare that my soul, your soul, the animal soul, but that we can call life. So, jīva means that soul. Jīva means the life. As long as the jīva... and this is a word from Sanskrit, you also have in your languages, many of these, what are called the Slavic languages: "voda," "jivot." Water is life, so "voda." Actually, so I'm not talking about voda, but the jīva. So jīva is life, and therefore every entity has life. And life is life; life will not die. The body will die, the form will disappear, but not the jīvātmā. So the jīva doesn't matter if it's a human or other creatures in the water, on the earth, and in the space. Different is the form. And there is again, it is said, let's say, fish. So a fish is a fish. Now, which kind of fish? Doesn't matter. It's a fish. So, human is a human, no dualities. Now, every creature which comes up, from reptile to walking up, the reptilian also has a brain and everything. A very big python has a little head. But this little head is pulling the whole body. And this little brain lets the whole body go where it wants to go. A big elephant has this small brain. And so it's going. So slowly, slowly we come up, our brain came up and developing more and more and more. But still, jīva is jīva, soul is soul. There are billions of stars, but a star is a star. Big or small, Jupiter or putty pearl, a star is a star. The water, maybe the whole ocean, or just a very fine drop of the fog, water is water. Now, as often I used to tell about humans and others, humans got a lot of freedom, a lot of qualities, intellect, everything, but humans got. But they have all kinds of freedom. But there is one word, but. Though you are like a human, you can do what you want. You can kill someone. You kill animals. Many things give freedom to you, but you are bound to karma. And karma will show you what you did. Tan, man, bachan, and dhan. These are the four ways to make the karma. Tan means the body. Whatever we do through the body, all is called kriyā. Vomiting is a kriyā. Urinating is a kriyā. Going to the toilet is kriyā. All circulation is kriyā. Speaking, listening, eating, cooking. Everything that happens through this body is kriyā. Animals also have kriyā, but they have that kind of kriyā which does not bind them to come back and go again. The animals, they kill the animals. But they don't know about pāpa and puññā. Pāpa means the sin, and puññā means the abuse. Therefore, karma does not apply to the other creatures. But they will, they will suffer, because they had karma, and they have to go through these karmas. They kill the animals, so they will be killed. But they don't know, they don't know what karma is. But humans understand karma. So, first is physical. Then also the mental. Then, through intellect, and though we know what we are doing. So the animal eats and kills only for eating, just nothing else. But humans do know and do feel and know that I'm killing. And humans are killing more because of the business. Per year, how many billions of animals are killed for human food? Billions of creatures. So they die, eat, and die. One day, their life will come to the human, but the humans join them again. You understand what I mean? Yeah. When the human will die, they will join the animal's life because they behaved and they felt too much freedom. So karma will punish them, not nobody else. So, tanse tan means the body. Whatever we do, if someone is walking, an old person slowly, and you come and give the hand, this is also karma, but good karma. Or you just go and push it and run away, you will be pushed in the fire. It will be so. Turn through the body, man is again. We know the mind, but there is our ignorance or our proudness. We kill the animals, and you think we are human, and animals for us to eat. God didn't say this. It is said in the Vedas, "Jīva jīva bhakṣate," and life will eat life. But I created the human so that they would not do this sin. They will not kill, because they have to come back to the highest, the cosmic consciousness. And you will never get that consciousness if you are consciously or unconsciously eating dead bodies. Eggs are also not as vegetarian. This egg grows on the plants. Besides the tomatoes, so this hormone from the animal is not for humans to eat. Paramahaṃsa Yogānanda is a master; I have written in one small book. What was his master's name? Now, a hundred people who speak, then I can't—Yukteśvar, yeah, he has written, you will see in some book: if you eat one egg, you cannot meditate for ten days. Of course, you can close the eyes, you can sleep, you will have many dreams, but meditation will not be that. Because of the egg, nowadays many people have heart attacks, and because many, many people are eating the eggs, and so this is... they are people eating caviar, the eggs of the fish, that is also animal's eggs, so we shall... Survive through vegetation, fruits, grains, vegetables. And they also say, do not destroy the whole plant for your food. You may just take the leaves or the fruit which is growing and falling down. Don't say there are now too many humans and there is not so... Much fruit, if you can create, or what you call multiplying, the billions of animals to kill, we can also cultivate a good vegetable. But we will know after the death that the chicken will kick you and throw you into the hill. Egg is for a chicken. It's like a child. She is not giving, like, what you call a code, "toilet." It is a feeling of that mother is like giving child. So there are so many principles, so human doesn't understand. And humans think, "We can do all, you can do all by yourself." But then there will be no excusing in that house of the universal one. So man, don't just play with your human mind. "Bachchan," second, "Bachchan" means the word. That means, so. So, it is your Ātmā that is speaking. Shabda. It is our inner self speaking. Ātmā is the truth, but then your mind and your intellect are manipulating the supreme vibration into the worldly vibration. So, all that we are talking negatively will come to us sooner or later, okay? If someone is talking badly, you should not talk badly. You know that you can say to yourself, "No, I will not tell bad words if someone taught me the bad words." It's written in the Bible too, but who believes that? Who follows that? Only a few words we are following from the Bible. The Bible says hundreds of pages. And look in those pages, and if you follow all, then don't be worried. Your ātmā will be with Paramātmā, but we don't follow. How many weapons are produced by those who believe in Christianity? Those shall not kill. So he said, "No, we don't kill. We only give the weapons, that's all." But this is, it is said, who will sell the animal? Carp to the butcher, so who is selling will get more sin than the butcher. And then, after the butcher, who will eat? That will get more sin. So, who is selling the animal gets the sin. Then, for whom does he sell the animal, and for which purpose? Because it is for eating. And who is eating? They need that someone has to kill the animal or to have more animals. So this is connected to the person who is taking and making animals, what do you call the word, animals? Breeding. That one will be the more sin. Then, who is selling? That will have the more sin. Then, who will kill? They will have the very heavy karma sin. And now, who will eat? That will have the most terrible sin, because you are the cause of all this for others. Who will eat has a cause. So tan, man, bachan, and the fourth one is called dhan, wealth. So when you have money, then you have power, and also we can do many bad things if you are very rich, and you can do what you think. So don't think that you will be now again human-born. No, no. Go to the farmhouse, the animal's farmhouse. And so many cows are there. When you go in, they say, "Baaah. Oh, you are my friend." I was also with you one day, but now I am here. You will also be here. Yes, it will come back. This is recycling, and so we have to come out of this recycling. That's why it's called Chaurasī Cakra. Chaurasi means 84. Eighty-four million different creatures. Chakra is a cycle. So when you go through, there are one, one,... one dots. And these dots are that kind of creatures, 8.4 million. And that is a cycle. So it will be, we will suffer. It will be done, whether you believe it or not. That's all. If you believe it or not, if you drink the poison, you will die. Believe or not believe, so there are some kinds of poison that kill you slowly. And some poison kills you immediately, but this is a karmic thing. And don't say that I don't believe in karma. If you believe it or not, karma is there. If you work, you will get money from your boss. And if you don't work at all, then you will not get any money. So this is a karma: working, getting; not working, not getting. Both sides: so tan, man, bachan, and dhan. These are the four powers through which we can create karma. We will continue in the evening. Wish you all the best. And if someone wants to come and talk here. So, Hari Om finished.

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