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Good and bad destiny and karma

A spiritual discourse on destiny, karma, and religious tradition, incorporating stories and teachings.

"Someone has such a, what we call, good luck, so it comes in your hands... but what you have in yourself, no one can take away. They cannot take your destiny."

"Sanātana Dharma is declared as a living religion, and other religions are dead religions. I would not say death, but finished."

The lecturer leads an evening satsang, exploring the concept of destiny through the lens of karma and consciousness. He narrates a lengthy, illustrative story about the poet Kalidasa, from shepherd to prince to scholar, to demonstrate destiny's unpredictable nature. The talk expands into a comparative discussion of world religions, asserting the perpetual living tradition of Sanātana Dharma in contrast to others he describes as concluded.

Filming location: Australia

Om Shānti, Shānti,... Ālagpurī Jī Mahādev Kī Jai, Devādhī Dev, Devīśwar Mahādev Kī Jai, Āradī Bhagavān Śrīdīp Nārāyaṇ Mahāprabhū Jī Kī Jai, Satguru Swāmī Madhavānandjī Bhagavān kī Satya Sanātana Dharma kī Jai. Good evening, blessed self. The blessing of our paramparā today is about destiny. We know yesterday we spoke that the soul is one, but it's like from the ocean, water comes up as a bhāṣpa—meaning fog—becoming clouds, begins to rain or snow or hail. Falling on the earth, it again all becomes one. So, we come together, and this soul, which is in the human body now, the human should try to become one. What does that mean? This consciousness in which we have the tendency to merge into oneness. But there are different energies, the different situations through this body, which we are doing. Now, this is said that what we call destiny, yes, there is a destiny too. Someone has such a, what we call, good luck, so it comes in your hands. And many have different; it gets lost, it goes out of the hands. But there is an inside feeling. Inside you must have will, that you can get everything again. Like it is said, if you have in your hands, anyone can take out, but what you have in yourself, no one can take away. They cannot take your destiny. So this is a very hard work, maybe from... Past life, it is not to say that a human will not become a human again. No, a human will come as a human, and a human will not come as a human. This is karma. Karma is what you have done; according to that, you will come. So, though you have good luck, you have good thoughts, you have many things, but you cannot come up, always going down and down. Even a beautiful, beautiful, big, let's say, crystal or diamond, now the beautiful diamond you throw in the ocean, it will go down. And down and down it will go to the bottom. Similarly, we are, we have knowledge, we have learned, we have everything. We are like a diamond, but there is another thing which is heaviness, and this heaviness is that, again, the karmic we. Do good, we do good, but sometimes it doesn't come. There's one nice story. This story, maybe you know, some that I told many times, I will remind you again. This story, there are the real stories and there are the fairies, that's it, so that this is a real story. So, one king, and one king, he had one daughter, and he loved his daughter so much. He had other, other also, his brothers, etc., but this was only one daughter, and he wanted to have the best of the best life for his daughter. "I wish that it... He will be a good husband for her, and she will be very comfortable. I will give my whole palace to her, etc., etc." Well, when she became about 20 years, 25 years, or something like this, now the king is telling his soldiers, "Please search for someone." The king, the nice good prince, or some good men, they couldn't find. All soldiers were going, running here and there. Then he called, he called the paṇḍit, the one who sees the astrology, the luck, everything. So the king called about ten or twenty pundits, and the king asked them, "My dear, I give you the duty: go in every four direction, five, five you should go, and bring some good message, a good boy or the prince, for my daughter." All they go everywhere and they come back and it is failed. Now what is happening? The princess, she said, "I will choose my husband. Father, you call, bring them, and I will test." Okay, so she, she learned. She was learning Vedānta, and she read all the Upanishads and all books and everything, she was very great, learned. Now she said, "I will test them, how much knowledge they have." Well, so what happens? She sits there, and she called that man, young boy or so, and she asked the questions, and if he failed with the questions, then she will say he's not, not, uh, how to call a person for me? And they have to play one game, and in this game, he's playing with the socket, yeah. And what she's doing there? She plays, and she had one nice cat. Very beautiful cat and her very loyal cat, and because there was no electricity or anything, so the cat was peacefully sitting with her, and she put a little flame, a dīpak, and that dīpak lamp she put it on the head of the cat. Now you know, cats have very nice nerves. They are very peaceful, very good, loyal. She's making an ant. She's concentrating on her boss, this girl. And also, the cat is looking to see if nobody is doing something wrong. So she has her eyes like that, and now they are playing. Always, she's the winner. They bring the man who is lost, while all the messengers who went to bring the boy fall. All the paṇḍits were tired, and they sometimes said, "What a stupid girl. We bring so many good boys and beautiful girls, and she said, 'I don't like, I don't like.'" So he said, they said, "Okay, we go search, and we will bring." So what happens? They were walking at that time, either with the horse riding or walking, in some village somewhere far distance. Midday, there was one shepherd, and he had some goats and sheep, and that shepherd, what was he doing? He was sitting on the big branch of the tree, and there, or he was sitting on this branch, but he was cutting the branch for the goats from the trunk side. So they came quickly and said, "That must be a stupid one." So they said, "Hey friend, what are you doing? You will fall down." He said, "I cannot fall down." But it happened, he fell down. He hurt a little bit. That was not so intelligent. He was not, but while falling down, he got, awoke in him something in the brain. Anyhow, they took him and said, "Are you married or not?" He said, "What is that?" So he said, "Yes, some girl, you will marry and you will have children." Yes, uh-huh, how is that? He said, "You know, you are the father and mother." Yes, I am my father and mother, but now you also should become a father. Should we bring you? He said, "Yes." So now they took this shepherd, nicely cleaned, all, everything. And they went to the king, and the king said, "Where is that man, boy?" The king said, "We will only bring him in the evening when the prince is here." Okay? So they wash him nicely, in good dress and this and that, and it was like this: if the flame goes off from the head of the cat, that the lamp or fall down from her head, then be sure the sea will be looser. But the cat is so alert, everything. And when she comes, that oil is less, then she will move one leg like this. Then the prince tells, "Put more oil, or the lamp is out." So they know everything. Now the pandits were very clever too. So what they did, they had a bamboo flute. Very good. And so, in the bamboo flute, they got one mouse and tied him. In the middle of the inside, the, what you call the mouse, sitting in the front, and the cat is looking, and she is looking at the mouse, and the mouse is looking at the cat. She did not know. Nobody knows, only these few people know. The king does not know anybody. Well, when the game came that she would be the winner, what happened? They lose that mouse. The little mouse comes close to out, and the cat jumps, and they don't know anything. They pushed him back again and they said, "Oh God, the cat lost." The game is finished. The next day, she will play again. So it is at seven times, because in Indian culture and tradition, there are seven times you have to walk around the fire ceremony. Three times, first she goes in the front and the boy goes to the back side. After that, the boy comes to the front, and she comes back forward. So seven times they have to go. And so she said they have to play the game seven times, and every time the mouse comes out. And the cat again. Is it nature? Nature is just—every animal has a nature, unless you are not trained. Well, she said, "The one thing you win." Now I have a second test. So she said, "Yes, tomorrow." So tomorrow they come, and she's sitting there in the front. This boy is sitting, and they told him, "Don't say yes or no." Don't talk. We will do. Don't act. Now the shepherd sits there. Others, they are sitting there, all his pandits, they are his helpers, or whatever you said. And now what is happening? So this prince said, "Only one is the supreme, the God. Rest is nothing." In Vedānta, it is said, "Only Brahman is the only one, and the rest is the duality." So she... She said like this, "Ekabrahm." The shepherd became angry and he said, "You show me one finger, I will give you a slap on your cheek. Why you show me the finger?" In his thoughts, the Paṇḍit said, "Moment, moment... hand down." She said, "I am telling five: one, Eko Brahma, Dutyanasti." What he said, why is he showing five fingers? They said, "Yes, ma'am, he is right." What? Without the five elements, the five tattvas—space, fire, air, water, and earth. All this together, that Ekabrahma appears in this. And therefore, we need this first. So she also then said, "Yes, these five." He said, "Don't show me again." First, you show me the finger, and now you also show me like this. He said, "I will box you." So he became angry, and he said, "Like fist." And, Princess, he said, "What did he say?" He said, "Wait, what?" Five fingers cannot do anything. A little bit can beat you. But, she said, it is a fist that has a power. They said, no, no,... no. Our prince doesn't tell like this. What did he say? He said, "All five elements come together, then become this one body." And Vedanta comes and said, "Okay." She didn't come further. Questions? She said, "I accept you as my husband." Well, next days will be wedding ceremonies, and he comes. There, well, so they had this ceremony with the fire ceremonies, and we gave him a very nice palace, house, and room and everything. And she was there, and he was there, and he was lying down. He said, "Oh, it's so nice and beautiful and like this," she said. Yes, all is for you, all is for you. Then she said, "Where's my goats and sheep?" She said, "What? In my sheep and goats, why can't I look at them? Where are they?" She said, "Who are you?" She said, "I am a shepherd." Oh God! She kicked him out through the window. He went away and again awoke in his consciousness the wisdom. He went, and he became a very great scholar. His name was Kavi Kālidāsa. Kavi means the poet, and Kavi and Kālidāsa was his name. Now you can see that in all the universities, you can go in the world universities, libraries, there are the scriptures, books about Kavi, Kālidāsa, Sanskrit in India. And so that is great. Anyhow, he became very great. Now he didn't want to marry. He was writing and writing, so it was great. He wrote a story, a small book. He wrote many things, and that book he wrote, Meghadūta. One book called Meghadūta. You can see it is also available in certain languages. And Meghadūt, Megha means the clouds and Dūta means the ambassador, the messenger. So that he talked through the clouds, the message there was to come. And so he writes in that book about Ālagpurījī. Kaviḍāsa was 2,300 years before Christ. It is written there that his life was 2,300 years. He wrote and he wrote and he wrote many, many stories from this. He went to Sri Lanka. He lost him. He gave everything up again. Destiny. How is the destiny? First, he was a shepherd. Then he became the prince. Yeah, and then again he went away. He came as a scholar, learning, and now he's writing many, many scriptures. He gave up this also. And he went round here and there. There is a, he was writing in this in, when we were in Kumbh Mela, in where Mahākāl, Śiva Mandir, where was it? Ujjain. And where we had our camp, very big, there was a wall, a park, and that was the university of Kālidāsa. And the people all the way looking, you remember? Yes, that's it. So that was the Kabhī Kālidāsa place. He went traveling, traveling, then he went to Sri Lanka. He gave up everything. Now he is not writing. He was in a different consciousness. So he stayed with some poor farmers, and he was living there. The king of Sri Lanka wrote one poem, but he wrote only half. And he said, "Anyone who can complete this poem, which I have written half, that person, he or she, who can complete it, I will give my kingdom." Nobody, nobody. So someone talking, talking, so he heard from this. So that one lady who was working there told about this. He said, "Okay, tell the king, give me his poem, half poem, I will complete it." And so he wrote it completely, and he gave it to the king. King said, "Wow, it's great." It will get my kingdom. Who is that lady? She said, "Myself." The king said, "You are?" She said, "Yes." "Okay, I will give you the kingdom. Is there not anybody? Otherwise, I will punish you." She said, "There is nobody on this earth." And she went in a night and she killed him. And so, destiny of the person. How much going up and down, up and down like this. So there were great, great scholars in the world, and they wrote something. Some who had no other, any, even the alphabet, but they had a knowledge inside to say. So destiny is very, very... How do you say them? The destiny is something very special. Now we have, we have it is dormant, our, the treasurer, our treasure is in the, in the... Our subconsciousness, all these levels of our consciousness, everything is there. So it can come to go to the spirituality, but it is also not, also not suddenly you will come to the spirituality, but you will not accept something. There is a surrender. We have to surrender, and then it will come to us. So in yoga, in spirituality, in God realization, etc., it must not be like, according to the Indian in mythology or spirituality. There are many, many in other parts of Europe or America or Australia. There could also be many, many more, but they were lost or they were killed. So the religion, religion, it came late. There was only one religion, which is what we call the Sanātana Dharma. There were no other religions, etc. But after came great, great. So also the Jewish, then came the Christians, then came the Buddhists, came the Muslims, and so on. All, then the little, little also, Sikh religions, Jain religions, all they became like this. But Sanātana Dharma is declared as a living religion, and other religions are dead religions. I would not say death, but finished. So in the Jewish language, in religion, no one you now can take as a God. And they are searching, they will maybe, and they go towards the wall. They think there is a story that there is a big, nice, beautiful water lake, and this side is a wall. They are thirsty. The wall means the rock. So they are thirsty. They know there is water, but they can't go there because there is a rock there. And so, similarly, that's why they go to the wall. It means that water means God. Thirst about that. They believe. We believe. It is like that. But they say there is no God. Now, there is no God. Similarly, anything you can say, you can say Peshawar, you can have all the other levels of religion, spirituality, but no God. There is only Jesus, that's all. So it means now finished. Similarly, also in Islam, what was that? Who wrote for Muhammad, wrote the Qur'ān. And after that, there is only the Qur'ān, nothing else. So now there is only there. In Buddhism, also Buddha, there is no more, anymore, further. Also, the Guru Grantha written by Guru Nānak, he wrote the Guru Grantha, and at the end of this, he said, "There is no more Guru." Only this is our Guru, only our holy scripture. And there is written the last, "Guru Granth Ko Janiye." This Granth, this book, this holy book. "Guru Granth Ko Janiye." Now, know that your Guru is only this book. Guru Granth means book. Guru Granth ko jānī hai. Only accept this. Guru Granth ko jānī hai. Pragad Guraan ki de. This holy book is the body of the Gurudev. Jis ke hirde mein satya hai. In whose heart is the truth. You can see in that, as a guru, so now they don't have any other guru. They can be all guru. Holy book, they are reading this, this they are very respectful, but it's finished. So similarly, many, but Sanātana Dharma have this one guru everywhere, so it's called. One God, it's called time to time coming, and Nitya Guru is everywhere. Time to time, coming as a living master, and that living master is giving you that knowledge. So, our destiny, our good luck, everything, it depends where you will come and how you will come. So, always... And once, when you have, you will feel sometime, "My God, why do I have this?" Now my destiny is not good. There were many, many stories. So there is one king who has married his daughter to the peacock bird. Do you know this story? Oh, and there's a more. More does Rājā that took it, that peacock as a crown on his head, and he is the husband of my daughter. And daughter didn't say no, she said, "My father said, and I accept it," and she went with him wherever the peacock was sitting on. Tree, and she was whole night under that. But the story goes continuously. One day he appears as a god and sees. And there is a very nice, very nice story about that. There is a great king called Harichandra, and Harichandra's story I will tell you next time. It is a very, very sad story, but in the end, you are one with God. It is a very, very long story, so it is truthful. The truthful one is Harīcandra. His name is called Harīcandra. So the destiny of Harīcandra, the story is very long and very good. Perhaps tomorrow morning I will tell you. Otherwise, next time when I come. It depends on what comes to me. Whom does the message come to me? When I walked from here, about 50 meters before, I did not know what I would talk about. I am not preparing a book, writing everything down. And then I said, "Okay, I will talk about this." So these are the legends. Very, very old. So Harichandra is a great, great, and great. It was a king. So many kings were like gods. They had their kingdoms, and the king was accepting them like his own family, his own children. He said, "No, this is my kingdom, and they are my children, and I will treat them equally." Very, very that time, but sometimes it was also terrible, like now in this time of what is called the politics. Everybody wants to become president and this and that. If one is very nice and humble, everybody says, "No, this is nothing." But it will come back again. How long this? It will go, it will not go long. I tell you, you can write on a piece of paper: after certain years, one century, centuries, two centuries, three centuries, you will see, finally it will come like that. That was the kingdoms, and now it came to democracy. But in democracy, it became the devil's. No more. Democracy is different. Everyone was free, but how free? We are not very free. We are not free. How many of you have to pay the tax? You have to do this, you have to do that, you have to have a visa, you have to go there. Many things. So, again time will come, and therefore Mahāprabhujī's one bhajan he has written about this, that finally it will be the holy saints who will again take in hand that kind of old, old ṛṣis. Something like this, so the destiny is here, but our ego said, "No, I don't accept," or, "These are dead. I will not do." Parents are suffering. Children said, "No, I don't want you, my father, my mother. Okay, you gave us birth. Write down." It is my property now. You go to the old home. Yes, so it's changing. The education is not there. Parents were giving knowledge. There is one story also very nice. There is a, and every child which was born, she gave self-realization to the children. So there are, that time was. So, Harichandra was very, very, you will say, in reality, we will say, go away. I will take my kingdom, and I will work in my kingdom. But there was an end, and it comes again, that God comes there. And God said, "I was testing." I want to know how faithful and how strong you are, that you will be my devotees. This Harī Chandra, it's a great story of Harī Chandra. Maybe this evening I will tell you. Oh, we have satsaṅg? No. So perhaps I will talk about this. All the best. I wish you a very good appetite.

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