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Where can we see God?

A spiritual discourse on seeking God and the science of yoga within the human body.

"Where can I see God? We have here self-realized masters. We can say that they are, for me, my God, but still not that which we are searching for."

"God is within us. God is within us and in every creature."

Swami Madhvanaji delivers a talk exploring the omnipresence of the divine in creation, from water to human beings. He shares parables, including one about a bamboo sacrificed to become Krishna's flute, to illustrate surrender and God's will. The discourse then shifts to the human body as a divine instrument, explaining the network of 72,000 nerves, the five elements, and the practice of pranayama to purify nadis and balance chakras for physical and mental health. He cautions against forceful yoga and emphasizes a natural, moderate lifestyle.

Filming location: New Zealand

Alak Devīśvar Mahādev kī Jai, Devādidev. Devīśvar Mahādev kī Jai. Ārādya Bhagavān Śrī Dīp Nārāyaṇ Mahāprabhujī kī Jai. Hindu Dharma Samrāṭ Satguru Svāmī Madhvanājī Bhagavān kī Jai. Satya Sanātana Dharma kī Jai. Māta Pitā Gurudev kī Jai. Hari Om Śānti Śānti... This salutation is a tradition, and it is more than just saying, "Hello, how are you?" It is the Vedas. It is the Upanishads. It is the principle that before we take a sure, certain step, we should lift one leg and think. We say we believe in God, though we have not seen God. Perhaps some of you have seen God. I would be so happy if you would show me where you have seen or worshipped God. When I fly from India through Bangkok, Hong Kong, or Singapore to Oakland, I look into the sky. Sometimes I am really looking: where is God? Maybe God is somewhere else. Here also I look; I do not see God, but I see the creation of God. Each and every entity is the creation of the supreme—we may call it God, or the supreme, etc. Different creatures have their own feelings. They also have feelings of love. They also give babies or eggs. Everywhere, within them, there are some movements. But we, as humans, have more qualities, more intellect, many, many qualities. So we are more than the animals. Yet sometimes we feel that certain animals are more loyal than, maybe, our best friend, who can also go away. So, may we see God in humans? But sometimes humans disappoint because we should not destroy the creation of God. Here we also fail. We do not understand the vegetation either. The water itself is alive. In many languages we say, in my language, in Hindi, we say "jal jahā jagadīś." Jal means water, and Jagadīś means God. God on this earth is the water, which is life. Water is God. Boda, jīvot, etc., we say in different languages. So, where can I see God? We have here self-realized masters. We can say that they are, for me, my God, but still not that which we are searching for. And sometimes God is also disappointed with us. God has given us everything. But we humans want to kill God. Either we did not understand or see the life of Jesus. We did not understand him; otherwise, we would not have tortured him on the cross. So it is very difficult for us to know God, who is within us. But we have this cover, over many, many different covers, and we are within. Sometimes we understand; sometimes others do not understand. There is one nice story—not a joke, but a story that is a little better, yes. Not too serious, but we two children can be alright. Should I tell that one? You like it? Yes. We have our dear Madhurām Purī, and I think all of you know him. He is my very dear disciple. He is dear to everyone wherever he comes, and that is why his name is Madhu. Madhu means the honey, and often we say, "My dear honey," yes, isn't it so? He is an artist, and he is a yogī, and he has many different instruments, playing the main instrument now. In this instrument, we can awaken god sound resonance. And in the Vedas—the Vedas are the first written, first scriptures, etc.—that time there was only one religion, called Sanātana Dharma. I will perhaps tell also, but I want to awake him up anyhow. So how to... when I will become the master? You give me the bamboo, and I will do nothing, or someone will make them do nothing but that. A master, like Madhuram, he just takes and gives one kiss to the fly fruit, and it comes so resonant. And so, there is also one story, one after another story coming. So, God, my dear God, had a beautiful garden—all kinds of flowers and this and that, all kinds of birds and that, except the humans. In the morning, at the time of dawn, God wakes up and goes walking through the beautiful garden. He comes and touches the flowers, and even the grass and the plants. Everyone said, "I love you, God. I love you, God." And God said, "Yes, my son, my child, I love you. I love you." Everyone, all are happy in His garden. All are very happy while going, going... At one corner, there is a bamboo bush. And before God said, "I love you, my bamboo," the bamboo said, "God, I love you, but please let me be in your garden." And God said, "Why are you saying this? Of course, you are in my garden. You will be in my garden. I love you, my bamboo." Every morning when He comes, the bamboo says, "God, please let me be in your garden." Well, one day God comes with His hands on His back and an axe on His head, and Bamboo felt it: "There must be today God has something which I don't like." Bamboo said, "God, I love you. God, please, what is in your hand? Why are your hands on the back?" God said, "My dear Bamboo, I love you. I love you very much, and I know that you will help." Bamboo said, "Yes, my Lord, yes." God said, "Bamboo, I will chip off one of your arms today." Bamboo said, "God, I knew that it would be sometime. Sometime you will cause me the pain. Why? Why?" God said, "My son, my dear Bamboo, in the world, the human heart is slowly, slowly getting very hard. So I need your help." Bamboo said, "God, how can I make their heart soft?" God said, "That will be. But God, you chip off my arm, and people will have their hearts so soft then?" God said, "Yes, not only the humans, but all the birds and butterflies and the whole forest." Bamboo said, "But why, God? Why not from somebody else?" God said, "No." God said, "Bamboo, I love you. And this one arm, I will cut it. And you know, I love you, and I will kiss you." Bamboo said, "Lord, with my broken hand?" God said, "No, it's not broken. It's a life inside, and I will flow my breath, my energy. And a bamboo, you who will make such a beautiful, very sweet resonance sound that all will be so happy. They will be so happy when they go in the meditation, the birds and this and that." It was the flute of God Kṛṣṇa. So wherever you see Krishna, everywhere, His flute is in His hand. Well, Bamboo said, "Okay, Bamboo, do it quickly, quickly, please, Lord, don't." God said, "No, I will not. I will do that; you will not feel the pain. Okay." Every day, God is coming again, and Bamboo said, "Lord, let me be in your garden. Please don't let me go out." After a few years, maybe, the bamboo was so thick. And again, one day, God comes with His hands on His back. And Bamboo again said, "Lord, from far, what will He do again? I love you, Lord. Please, Lord, let me be in this garden." God said, "I will. But Bamboo, today I will not cut your arm, but the whole trunk." Bamboo said, "By God, you will throw me out of the garden? No, no..." God said, "I will give you so many, so many of your children, the branches, but why to cut off this?" Bamboo said, "Yes, tell me the reason." God said, "Yes, in the high Himalaya, where there are the glaciers, and in one part of your Himalaya, other side, east or from the west, there was no rain for a few years, and there's no water further, and people are dying, animals are dying." Bamboo said, "But what can I do, Lord?" God said, "I will put your trunk on the two rocks." So there were glaciers; when they will melt, this water will flow toward the earth, and the animals, and humans, and vegetation; they will have water. My dear Bamboo, it is you who will let flow the rivers." Bamboo said, "Then, Lord, do it." And so in that way, God works with us. Sometimes He will do with us, and He will see the why. So, of course, He will not cut your hand or your legs, but He will cut our ego, our pride, our cruelties, many, many things, and that kind of branches of the anger, hate, jealousy, that I will chip off. Why, Lord? Because my son, I will embrace you, and you will be sitting in my heart, and through my brain you will work and help all the world, all people. But God, some people don't believe in you. They are saying they are, what you call, atheist. Well, there are people like this, but they don't believe in God in that way as we are doing. But they have such a heart, everything, and they are very helpful to everyone, but they don't trust in our God. So, there is a story of that God again. There was one man who liked his hobby, climbing on the rocks. So you have also a very beautiful rock. Yesterday, I saw from the aeroplane snow on the peak of the mountains there. Because always I was on this side, I saw this side, the other side, and snow is this one. New Zealand's or one Himalaya, okay? Maybe it is a long Himalaya, so. So that person went, and what happens? He was climbing, climbing on the rock, and the rock was like this. And suddenly, what happened is the rope broke, and he held the rock. He held his rock very strongly, hanging there. His legs didn't touch, come close there. Well, life is dear to everyone. So he said, "God, you see, he's proud still. I heard that you are living in the Himalayas and there are more holy. I don't trust in the holy and in God. God, I'm not trusting in you still. But if you are a real God and you help me, then I can believe. I will say, 'God, God, if you are God, and if you will be and you will save my life, then I can tell you, all my property will be distributed for all poor animals and humans, and so on.' Then I will trust you are a God, God." And God came. But God didn't come close. He was standing 20 meters on the rock, other side. Light and God. The man said, "Who are you?" God said, "I am the God you want to God. I am here." The man said, "If you are a God, then please help me." God said, "Yes. What can I help you, my son? You don't know what I need help? You are asking me the question. If you are God, you need not to ask me a question. You know what is happening." God said, "Yes, but God is that. It doesn't give just like... that indirectly He gives you everything you want." So the man said, "I wish that you save my life. I'm hanging here. Quickly, please. My fingers are burning. It will..." God said, "Don't worry. It will be... don't worry. I am suffering." The man said, "God, what is that?" God said, "I am asking you something. You promise that you will take all your properties to the poor people." And so, God said, "Do you trust in me? Say yes. Beliefs? Yes. Will you do anything that I tell you? Say yes. Sure? Yes. You will do whatever I say? Yes. Please hurry up." God said, "If you trust in me, then leave your hands free." The man said, "So stupid I am not." Then God said, "Okay, remain hanging there." So, how shall we be sure there is devotion? Where is God? God is within us. God is within us and in every creature. So, in this way, which we are talking about, this bamboo again, it was a bamboo. In this bamboo stories, so then I will come to there. So they were beautiful young boys, about age of 30 years, 40 years, 20 years, and all were a very big group. Someone was playing sitar, guitar, bamboo, many, many. Also, this Australian boom, boom, boom. What is that called? Didgeridoo. Didgeridoo, yes. I tried day before yesterday very much, boom. Still, my is it? So. So, yes, really, in the Gaṅgā, yeah, in our Harṣa from their big forest, okay? They went to one small village, my dear one. These stories are giving some knowledge; it's not only a joke. So they came to one village, and they have about 200 or 250 houses, all farmers, all. So they came in the middle of the village, and they put their instruments and thought that we will do some music. So people came, and now they are all trying to do, and nobody understands what is that. And the other one makes that harmonium, sitting. Okay, they are sitting. About 45 minutes, one after the other, slowly, slowly... slowly, they went home. And they are still playing, playing, playing. There was one elderly grandmother sitting there, and she was looking at them. And they are playing, and they're playing. She's sitting, looking. Dawn rose, and they all were so happy because she was looking like this. So they said to each other, "Well, at least one person understands our music, and we have practice, so it's a good morning." When dawn rose, she began to cry. She was crying, so one man, like our Madhurām, he came to the elderly ladies and grandmothers, "Please don't cry. Whole night we were playing for you, and we know that we understand you use our music." And she said, "No, my children, the whole night I was suffering, and now the sun will be rising very soon. My children, I was trying praying to God. You know what?" They said, "Know what?" She said, "You know, my goats and sheep once had such a disease. So in one night, they all died. And how? Exactly like this noise, what you are doing. So I think you will die, sunrise." That he was whole night getting, oh, no. And my, my sheep, they were also making sound and at night cried. So when one does not understand, then there is something. So, my dear ones, I come here today to show the human qualities within, and there is what is called kuṇḍalinī and cakra. Kuṇḍalinī: kuṇḍ is a water pot. And kuṇḍ, this is a kuṇḍ like a dam. There, the second is a kuṇḍ, a snake. When it's sitting, the snake is rolling, it is sitting with that. So, kuṇḍalinī, that's one word. Second, that in the human body we have seen before, don't change please. There was one picture, a photo we saw. There are in the human body, there is one picture down. So it is in our body, all 72,000 nerves. And in these 27 nerves, which are keeping our whole body in balance, healthy, everything—our eyesight, our eyeballs, everything, which are the nerves and this and that—these are those nerves. How they are giving the light to us? In the brain, in the ear, which kind of nerves are there? How it balances the sound? We can hear nicely. Similarly, in our voice, so in the whole body, it is the 72,000 nerves. And in the whole knowledge, it is the energy flowing. When some nerve is damaged, then definitely something is damaged in the body. Sometimes, big damage can be. We can become blind or different. So, it is the energy in this body. We have five elements, which we all know: space, fire, air, water, earth. So all is in our body. So all is again coming together. And so our skin, the whole skin is on what we call, like, a net of our mosquito net. So, like this, all is covered by this skin. Thanks that God gave us skin that will be nicely covered. But when, if we open and see inside how it is, I think we will be very, very scared. Yes, whatever. And so, thanks to God, our doctors and the operation—what are they called?—surgeons, they tell the parents and family members, "Now, please stay outside. Your father, your mother, or your child. If you want to stay near, then the doctor will cut it. It begins trembling. That's why the doctor will send us out. All preparation will be done, and then again bring the skin out, and it's like beautiful." We don't know about our whole body. Maybe the doctor knows, but many things the doctor still doesn't know, cannot do. Maybe our science will develop and it will be, but still, there in our body, we said our soul. Where is our soul? Is it in the heart or somewhere? So the soul is equal in the whole body, and when even a little mosquito will bite us in the small toe immediately, information goes here and to the heart. This is a connection of the body, so this body is divine, and the same thing the animals have, too. All we have the same color of the blood. Even the water fish, little if you touch it, will go very quickly. Why? The fear is there. Feeling is there, and so we are on the human path here. Out of these nerves, we will tell again, so please, can you show the yes? Now, these are not all 72,000. These are the main, main... main nerves, the main, main, which we can see, but each has many, many branches. Now, let us see our arm, the wrist, and our elbow. On our shoulder, on our throat, where our eyes are, on the forehead, on the top of the head, below the knee, the ankle joint, the toes, etc. All these are major points in our body. And if we can practice the yoga exercises and keep this active, these nerves are like our roots. If we take a plant out, then we see how many roots are there, and so similarly, our whole body is covered with the roots. And these roots down need the nourishment, the water, the salt, etc. Similarly, our body needs such kind of nourishment that it remains healthy. It is said, "Are you born living for eating, or are you eating for living?" Now, even the many animals, many birds, they are not doing. They know how much, and that's all. But we, we have no control over what? The tongue, the taste, and our taste is only till the vocal cord. After, we don't know what is in the stomach: sour, chilies, lemons, etc., etc. We don't know. But the test is here, and this test is our enemy. We are all eating this and then this and then this and this, and that is our body, how it is. So we are, we should be living for eating, but now we are eating for living, and I am telling this, I am telling myself. I also have no control. When nice grapes come, I said, "Oh, but take it." Yeah, ice cream? No, I don't like it. I don't know, but someone said, "Take it." Okay, a little. Okay, a little. What? This little is that very harmful for the harm, and so these nerves. They are taking the energy through the whole body, through blood, etc., and giving the hormones, etc. This is our life, and there we do the prāṇāyāms. Prāṇāyāma means breath exercise. Now, these three nāḍīs point: the right side is the sun, and the left side is the moon, and on the top of the head here is called the main center. That's called the door to the supreme. So this one point on the top, from here that goes down, down, down to the end of our spinal column, the anus, till the anus. This slide from the left one comes from there. This nostril goes to the right side, the left one, and the left one, right one, will turn to the right side. There is a cross, and that becomes what we call the junction. And at that junction, the train is crossing. So these are the centers because it is too strong. It cannot remain. It travels like this, so it is like electric cables, and so there is between other energy, or what we call the earthings, balancing this. So, very touching, there is a powerhouse that is very strong from our thyroid gland, and then again the left will go right, which was the left was the right, right one was left. And then it will trance like this, so it is going through. They call people, some you will know, it's called the serpentines. Now someone says this is snake in the body, like a snake. No. This is only balancing our mind, our emotions, our thoughts; everything, we are balancing our whole body. Otherwise, we can't walk. We will fall down here or there. We cannot get up. These are all chakras. And it is that from the left hemisphere, that side it is said, but I am not a doctor, please, but a doctor will tell that when we have the brain surgeon. No, for instance, the stroke, face stroke. And that is going from the left side. From the left side, it goes this side and there. What will the doctor do? Give us tablets. What do we do with tablets? That we should let it be relaxed, relaxed. Don't move the nerves. Let it be. So, you sleep. And in yoga, it is the best. Because the medicine will not make us healthy. Medicine does that for a while; your nervous system and everything will be in peace. There are many medicines, of course it is not good, medicine is very good, but the best is to know how. There was a blockage, and in yoga, there is a pranayama. Inhale through the left, exhale through the right; inhale through the right, exhale through the left. So there are different kinds of prāṇāyāms. When this happens, if you can do this, inhale through the left, exhale through the left, inhale through the left, exhale through the left. Then close slightly. Inhale, exhale, inhale to the right. Then inhale through the left, exhale through the right. Inhale through the left, exhale through the right. Then inhale through the right, exhale through the left. Inhale through the right, exhale through the right. Relax for between 10 minutes and 1 hour. Again, inhale through the right, exhale through the left. Inhale through the left, exhale through the right. This is called the sūrya or the prāṇāyāma, the, what is the name of it called, no, no, not vedanā, nāḍī śodhana. Śodhan means purification. So inhale, exhale. This is śodhan. We are cleaning what is in the nerves and also Sūrya, Sūrya. Then Bhedana, it means inhale left, exhale right. We let go of the needle through. So it is that we let go of the prāṇa, our breath. Then Surya, the sun, Sūrya bhedana, inhale, right, left, exhale, inhale. After balance, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, but no stopping breath, and also not too long, because this is damaged, and so prāṇāyāma is the best of the best. If you do every day half hour prānāyāms, I can tell you that God bless you, you will have no any things in the brain. Memory will be there. If there is too much, too much extra anything, it will all cure up. Prāṇa, prāṇa,... we want to open the window. Why? Because there is no oxygen, no prāṇa. So Kuṇḍalinī Yoga is not that. Many people are saying like this: "Now Kuṇḍalinī goes up, now I go up, now I am going, oh Kuṇḍalinī, get up." That is a mental disease. Yes, many are saying it is burning here. I said, "Nothing. Burn it. Eat properly." Some don't eat too much chili. So my idea, yoga is just so safe. Nothing will harm you if you practice exactly and slowly, not quickly running here and there. No, in yoga, no, how do you call them, challenge, no competitions, no challenge, etc. So this is yoga, very, very. Then your kuṇḍalinī means also in the whole body, in the whole nerves, this will go, etc. Can you take, give me the middle one, the one above, yes. So when I spoke about prāṇa and relaxation, from the nostrils, this prāṇa is going in and out, in and out. It enables our life to begin there, it is there. And so also we breathe, we exhale and inhale, both are... It's called prāṇa and apāna. Prāṇa is going in, apāna is going out, so it means we inhale and then we exhale the toxins. So this is prāṇāyāma. And then you see, all these chakras along the spinal column, there are these... Chakras, it is a health, best health, good eyesight, everything. If we practice every day, we have... this is your book, it is yours. You should have it, really, and you should read it. And mostly, how to say, these are the charts here, and there is a written. Everything is very, very nicely explained: which element, how, and how to practice also for every chakra. So, this is the Viśuddhi cakra. If you read, you will be surprised how good it is for us. Yesterday there was a talk; it was there, it is here. I will not talk too much now because you are tired. But one thing I want to tell you: the thyroid, our vocal cords. Now, nowadays many people have thyroid problems. The first problem, of course, is nourishment, the food. As I said before, we don't eat healthy. The alcohol, I teach, alcohol that slowly, slowly will turn to cancer in other parts of this and that, and will take the energy from the blood. Some hormones, so it will be everywhere. You see, see that the meat and alcohol eats, there will always be the cancer, the cancer or others. I don't want to stop you; you have your shop, you can buy a few bottles or something, but think that you should. Now, if it is the next point here, now there is not only the nourishment. The second, higher, biggest point: a problem is either between husband and wife—it is the same—or your boss, or your employee, or your neighbor, or someone. What? When someone speaks negatively, with anger or hate, then one person is trying to be calm. What means to be calm? You heard, but you swallow it, and you don't want to bring it out, because when you will say again something, then the other one will say ten times more. What to do? And so, what? The women, the husband, or this? And then she said... This swallowing, and so here is a pressure, your pressure on these chakras, these nāḍīs, and the prāṇas, or in the stomach, our navel. It can go to the liver, other organs, or for the women, from which problem it is. With the families, with the husband or this, the emotional, so there is the cancer coming, or also the men, men have also the same problem. So, it depends. So, please do not be angry. Do not be jealous. Do not be cruel. If you can, or me, we'll release everything peacefully. It will be very nice. So, let us learn to forgive. Forgive and say, "Please, I'm sorry." And the other one will say, "Okay, don't worry." But how long? How many times are you torturing your husband, or are you torturing your wife or the others? And that heavy it is in our body. This Kuṇḍalinī science, and this all, you can in such a way release from your yogic power again in the peace and harmony. So this thyroid gland, which many have problems here and there, there is prāṇāyāms, āsanas in yoga. In daily life, there's a whole chapter of what to do and how to release this, of course, doctors' medicine is definitely very good now, but natural things are better. The chemical body does not accept, but when we take something from nature, the body accepts it. It is only we take the one tablet, and we think it is okay. But there is more reaction, side effect, and for natural, it is also, but less natural. If we don't know exactly, then we are making it, but it will not make so much harm. So yoga is a science of the human body, and yoga is for practice for the humans, and we can still change our way of living. We will really, we really, we can become very healthy and very good. I met one person today on the door of the lift, and another person told me, "You know, this, my friend, colleague," She was so walking, and today, I think she's 35 kilos. Slowly, slowly gone, and she looks completely different and very healthy. So, no, no... That was not. Don't tell, yes. Sorry. So you didn't look towards your wife. Anyhow, she will be angry with me. She is listening. Anyhow, there is a webcast, you know. That you can have, it's called Swāmījī TV webcast, and you can [watch it] anytime, 24 hours. Anywhere you can listen to my many, many lectures like this. Okay. So this is in your hands. Only we can do it. Don't depend on someone. Someone can support or help us, but we have to do it ourselves. My dear, each chakra is immense, an immense source of knowledge, first for our body, our mind, our spirituality, our many, many things. And this book, I'm not saying that you must buy, but I will tell you, this will make you great, great. In this book, so, chakras and kuṇḍalinī. Now, kuṇḍalinī, when I will speak, is it too much? And the kuṇḍalinī is down there, and this is like a snake. Can you give us some other one chakra? Other? Yes. Well, this is a chakra on the top of the head, and here is a dripping nectar. This nectar comes through our forehead wall, and that comes to our palate. And that turns, comes towards our... when we are swallowing something, it goes to the stomach, and that is burned. Other, there is another channel that goes through these nerves, three, which I said, that can come to the navel, is immortality. So, every chakra, a lot and a lot is written here, and nothing is harmful. It will be only the good and good, and you practice your... Yoga in daily life, wherever you are. If you cannot make a headstand, don't do it. One of my disciples in Czechoslovakia, that time with the Soviet Union territories, I was giving them yoga for 20 years. Now, many centers and many, so one man who was about... at the age of 75 or 78, he was using head standing, and now he made a computation: how long can I stay in head standing? He was doing one day nearly 40 minutes, and his wife always said, "Don't do so long," and he said, "Don't tell me, don't disturb." Okay, one day he fell down and became unconscious. The ambulance came and took him to the hospital. After a few days, the doctor said, "Mister, what have you done?" "I was doing head standing." The doctor said, "Aha, but you know what? God gave the two legs to stand, not the head." So, we should not give pressure to our body. What is comfortable, we can do, is okay. Which we cannot. Don't break your knees. Don't break your hip joints. Don't break your neck or anything. Just bring your diet, and do diet three times. Don't make it like this: that you take breakfast in the morning, and the whole day you don't eat, and in the evening you will eat very much. This is not good. Good is that we should eat, but not too much, that much. Much. So this next āsana, and this is our fourth cakra here on the forehead, and this is called the third eye, and there is, again, this is Śiva Liṅga. So Śiva Liṅga is here, and on the end of the cakras, that is Śiva. So, thank you very much. I cannot tell you everything. So, Madhuran will speak next time when I come. I hope that you got something. Because I talk too much, and it's Indian language and different things. But this book or his teachings, I pray to Almighty for your good health, for your happiness, and for your house, your families, peace, and harmony. God bless you. Adió.

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