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Heaven and Hell are in us

Svarga and Naraka are not distant realms but immediate states within consciousness.

Svarga is experienced as inner joy and youthfulness, a heaven within. Naraka is suffering, born from negative thoughts and actions like violence and desire. These states alternate within a second based on one's mental focus. They manifest even in this life, visible in the comfort or suffering of the body. The cycle of karma determines experiences, as seen in the varied lives of creatures. Even a being with good karma can take a lower birth due to a final misdeed. The ultimate aim is to transcend both joy and suffering to reach Brahman, which is like the limitless sky, beyond all duality.

"Svarga and Naraka are both in our body."

"Brahmaloka is the Brahman, then it is nothing. There is no pain and no joy."

Filming location: Strilky, Czech Republic

Chaitanya Chilaka Svāmīnā Dikhālā Dīyādeva Purīṣaṇa... Eḍā Piṅgalā Miltathā, Eḍā Piṅgalā Miltathā, Tabaduni Nāda Kosuntathā, Tabaduni Nāda Kosuntathā, Dasyāvar Pardhyāna Dharantathā, Dasyāvar Pardhyāna Dharantathā, Samajhadiyā Deva Puriṣaṇa Chetanka Chilaka Swamina Bikhaladiyā Deva Puriṣaṇa... Bikhaladiyā Deva Purīsana dikhlā diyā Deva Purīṣan, mat sajhā diyā Deva Purīṣan, samajhā diyā Deva Purīṣan, chetan kā chilka Svāmī dikhlā diyā Deva Purīṣan, chetan kā chilka Svāmī ikhlā diyā Deva Purīsā. Sunnā śahar ek bharī thā. Vahai abhachala jota aparitha Prabhu purana brahma vicharitha Prabhupurana Brahma vicharitha Parasadiya deva purisane Ne dikhlā diyā Devapurīsane, dikhlā diyā Devapurīsane, cetānaka cīlakā svāmīne, dikhlā diyā Devapurīsane, cetānaka cīlakā svāmīne, dikhlā diyā Devapurīsane. Vāgāmā ekā nirādhāritā, Vāhachandīśā ikasāritā, Svāmīdīpāśedasā sudhāritā, Milvā diyā deva purīṣaṇa, Chaitāṅka Chilakā Svāminā, Dīklā diyā deva purīṣaṇa... Dikhalādiyā Devapurīṣāne upadeśa-bhajana-kāde karke Chetanaka Chilaka Swami Dikhala Diyadeva Purisane Upadesha Sridhar Bhagwan Ki Jai, Vishwa Gurudeva Ki Jai Ho. Tera Janama Marana Mit Jai, Tuhari Sumara Pyaar. Tera janam mara na jai, Khera minkha na jame. Sukha dukha na hi pare, Jobara rakha ya Kamana pasya. Jobana rasiya, Kamana rasiya, Danna manna dhana hare. Tuhari amasumara pyaar, Tuhari kanpama. Tuhari amasumara pyaar, Tuhari kanpama. Durbala kāya roga bākāya, durbala kāya roga satāya. Kṛṣṇa dāna chāre, terā janama dāna, terā janama maraṇam, terā janama maraṇam,... tū hari. Prabhu nahi suma rabhi te umara kala aaye maare, nahi suma rabhi te umara kala aaye maare. Barmananda bina jagadishvara, brahmananda bina jagadishvara We are lucky that mostly we have a good atmosphere and good air, good sunlight. We didn’t have... Not rain, it’s called the rain god, and that is called Indra. Indra is the kingdom of the rain. It is he who brings the air and the rain. So, always we said Indra is the kingdom, Indra Rājā, Indra King, please give us the water, bring the water. And that is, it is called Svarga Loka. Svarga is one of the best, joyful. It is said that when you come to the Svargaloka, you all become young again. Even old men, yeah. How far is the... How far is the... Svarga Loka. And when you come to Svarga Loka’s door, you come in. My God, you are like 25 years. Or 20 years, all girls and boys. Yes, and eat. And be happy, joy, everything, but discipline. Yes. It is not that now you want girls and boys; they can dance every day differently. It is like a goddess. You don’t have this desire. And we come in that Satyuga, or not Satyuga, in the Svargaloka, and time to time the Dharmarāja sends them down here on the earth. So they are coming, they are going, and they are walking in the air. They are husband, wife, friends, etc. Yes. He said if they are alone, they are not two. But I will tell them it is two, so it will be for two. So they see us, but we don’t see them. They are walking through the whole space. They come sometimes to our lokas, and this is the loka, Earth. But Indra, he is the God, but time to time, you know, from the Narakalokas, they are called the devils, and they are attacking to get the Svargaloka, and it happens sometimes that they will take out from the Svargaloka. It happens sometimes, and you know that Indra, he was very sad, he was running away. They go to Śiva. Please, God, and like this, there are many things now for us, as I feel I say: Svarga and Naraka are both in our body. We are dwelling in our Svarga inside, and they are those great saints, great bhaktas, spiritual, so they are enjoying what we call the heaven. Or narakas. They are also enjoying, but not for long. So, all, it is said, alcohol, meat, and fighting, and many, many things—this is the Naraka Loka that will again go further down and down and down. So, that is our thoughts, so within a second. It can be that we are in Naraka, or within a second we are in a Swarga. So, these are those who are bhaktas. And bhakta means not only, "Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God," no. We should feel happiness and good for all. All creatures, then you are living in heaven. And some who are suffering, they have nothing there. They don’t have money, heads, they don’t give; they take away everything. So, there are some who take all away from you, but it is said, "Whatever you take from me is just my dust, my what is within myself. You can take everything away, but you cannot take from me my Svargaloka." I am such a beast, and so it is not only that animals or humans. It can be other creatures too. And sometimes, those who had very nice karmas, but at the last minute, something made it a bit not good. So you should have come as a Svargalokas, as the Svargalokas ṛṣis or not ṛṣi bhaktas. But he did something, so he became a dog. And now there are different kinds of goodness in their good luck. There are some people who have a dog, and the dog is loved very much by the people, and the dogs also love the family. They are washing with the shampoos and with very good showers, the clothes, nail-cutting, some go for hair-cutting, have a very nice bed, so many things in that, good food, medicine, doctors, etc. So, I see we are on top of you, so this is our, one of our Bhakta’s friend, and he has this helipad here, and on this helipad they have been learning some. Anyhow, very good. Where is that friend of ours? He’s in Prague, or where? Anyhow, no, no, no. Alright, so that is good luck. And there is one other dog, which nobody wants to kill. Take this, this, and they are killed or anything. One day, from Prague on the highway, after about, I think, 20–30 kilometers or 100 kilometers distance on the highway, they stopped and put the dog out. The dog thought he wanted to go to the latrine, and they sat and closed the door. And he went away, running, running, running. But then, maybe he had good luck; he got somebody else. Another one is the dog which is on the prime minister’s. And his wife is getting that dog in her hand and coming to somewhere. And then, you know, there is one country. And we saw, you know, I think mostly all of you know, there is one season, and these people, they take the dogs, and with the gas fire, they are burning the mouth. And also the butter from the back. Yes, and the dog is, you know, scared. You know, there are many. Yes, who knows? Hand up. About these dogs, only three, four. Lucky are you that you don’t know, but it is not good. And you know that everyone has a nice cat. And many people, Europeans, they like cats. Why not? Cats are also something. And that is that they are coming in some karmic. So they give some, they are watching all of us. And they are very good. They give you some kind of, some kind of other’s message to you. So, and cats, they are very good. But you know, there is some country, and they go to a restaurant for food, eating, family. And there are children, so in one case there are many, many cats. And they ask the children, "Mother or father said, ’Which cat would you like?’" And he said, "Yes, this one." So he is catching it, and there is very, very hot water, and with this, "Tak!" and into the hot water. Very burning water for one minute, and then it puts into the cold water, and from cold water, half minute, one minute, and then the skin can be like this, pulled out and put again in the cold water, and still the poor cow or the cat. Like this. So what is the karma of that and the karma of that other? That’s it. If someone will kill like this, slaughtering, maybe it’s okay. I will not say okay, but quickly she dies. Why are they torturing? But that torturing is some kind of karma. And in which way will they do this? Naraka and Svarga, both are here and with us. Therefore, those who have good karma are the best. And we also said we shall give them that kind of love. It must not be in different ways. You know, there are cows or dogs, they are street dogs. And all those who are in this street, they are giving him food. Some are giving chapati, some are giving something like this. They are all like guards, and other street dogs cannot come to this dog, and he cannot go to the other street. Otherwise, they are fighting. So when some people, husband and wife, or neighbors and neighbors, they are shouting and becoming very negative. So, one person is shouting, another one is shouting, and all. Then it is said, they are fighting like dogs. Next life, they will also become like such dogs. People think like that. We don’t know what it is. But it is something. So svarga and naraka are here. Svarga and naraka are in our body. When we are in our body, we have svarga. We are not suffering very much, and some have, like, naraka still. And in the body, there is very, very much suffering. So this is Svarga and Naraka. Therefore, it is also said that one person said, and I can tell you something. You know, there is Swami Vivekanandajī and his guru, and that was very great. And he had many disciples. One there was, like Vivekananda, and they said his gurujī put the hand, and he became supreme, or whatever it is. So, was it really like that or not? But he was a very intelligent and good, and good, OK, maybe. I don’t know, therefore, please, I cannot say yes or no. Neutral I am. And if his Gurujī gave only one disciple’s hand, he became self-realized. And many bhaktas, like you and all, were also coming to him. He was also giving the hand to them. Why did he not give liberation to everyone? Yes or no, I can’t say anything. Maybe that Gurujī had only that much power for one disciple and finished. You are very thirsty, and you have one glass of water. So that one person took it, drank water, and his thirst was quenched. So, I don’t want to say anything. So Vivekananda is Gurujī. And his name was not Vivekananda. He came to Rajasthan, and in Rajasthan, there is an event with one king, and he didn’t believe in dead bodies or things like this. So Vivekānandjī was there and came to one king’s palace, and then Vivekānandjī was there in the evening time like this. And said to the king, "Please, if you want to come, I am going to pray to my Gurujī." So the king came, and Vivekānandajī, his Gurujī, Rāmakṛṣṇa, and a beautiful picture, a photo. So the king said, "What are you doing, Mahārājī?" I’m praying to my guru-devo. It is nothing; it’s not your guru. It is just a paper. I thought you were a great sādhu, a great saint, and praying to the papers. He said, "Your Highness, if you don’t like," Please, you can sit or go. It’s my guru, and I do the sādhanā. Well, he was standing like this. So when you are standing or sitting in prayer and holding your heart like this, it means you are in, what is that? Prison. Or someone is sitting like this. You are in prison for your whole life. Why? Or somebody is sitting like this in the prayers, or this, or in front of the great saint or the gurus, or like this. So you are also in the prison. This is an indication. It must not be like this, really, now. But it is an indication that this person has karma like that. And if it’s like this, it is you and me. We are one. Like this, so many things in that. So during the prayers or good things, we should be like this, thank you, or this, or that. Anyhow, that was after prayer, that maybe they gave him milk or something to eat, or something like this, I don’t know. And went to sleep. One day or two days or the next day, I don’t know, but it was. So that king invited his other great people. And because there was one very great saint, I would like to introduce him. So they came to the introduction, and we’ll give some words. So, in his yard, like this, all were sitting, the king was sitting, and also Swamījī was beside him. And Vivekānandjī said, "What is this beautiful, very great person?" Very nice picture, black and white. And his father, the king’s father, he was all kind of dressed and this and that, everything. So Vivekānandjī, his name was another name. And he looked. Your Highness, what is that? Ching got up from the chair, and he said like this. My high name is my father. Your father? Swamiji said he is one of the disciples. Take this chair down and put it on the floor. And split his leg on it. So said all three, Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Śiva. Then will come the guru. The king became red in his face. My father, my king, and you want to tear the papers? It’s a paper, my father. He said, "Mahārāj King, yesterday evening time, my Gurujī’s photo was there, and I was praying there. You humiliated my father, my Guru Dev, and you said it’s nothing." Tear it and throw it, that is like this. You said so, I learned from you, I should not have any photos, so it doesn’t matter who is your father or not. Tear it. So it doesn’t matter if it’s your father or not, but spread it out here. But the king was still angry, but he became a little calmer. And all the people stood up. Vivekānanda was not angry or anything. Well, the king said, "I’m sorry. Please give me your blessings and mantra and that." But the king said, "Mahārājī, my Gurudev, your name I want to write Vivekānanda." And so, what means Viveka? That you know, what means Viveka? Anyhow, what is happening? Now, Vivekanandajī was very strong and good, and he went to America and everywhere. And one day, after a month, two months, or six months or so, he went to his Guru-jī again to have a darśan. In Kolkata. And Gurujī’s ashram and garden, a little something. And it was a winter day. Not very cold, not very hot, but it was the winter. And his Gurujī, he was lying there. He was aged. And Vivekananda, he was becoming very strong, a good man, and all. When you are young, all is good. Then, our such, that kind of feeling is different. So he is coming, and Gurujī is lying there. And he had Rāmakṛṣṇa, Bhagavān Gurujī. And he had cancer on the throat here, and the cancer had already come out on this body. It was painful, like a wound outside. And he, one minute, second, Vivekānandjī was a proud sādhu, and my Gurudeva lying here, and having so much problems, I thought my Guru is more than me. And Ram Krishna said, "Vivek, you still don’t know. You know that if I will it myself, I will put my hand here and the cancer will be gone." Then he said, "Why not? You don’t? No way." I am very soon to go, and if I heal this cancer, then I have to come back again into this world to do all this, to feel all troubles and everything. So it doesn’t matter for some years, or months, or days, I will suffer. But I have no pain. I am above everything, but I have to be in this body, and this cancer will be for a time. Then Vivekānandjī bowed down, Gurudev. Gurudev said, "My son, my Vivek, my this Vivek, my son." There is more time for you, so this is that our karmic svarga and naraka, both here in this life, in this body, and when anything we have to suffer. And mostly, at the last minute, for the last some months or years, the body is tortured. We have to, we have to feel, we know pain, very painful. What can we do? So that one will die full of the pain, and others suddenly died. We are very sorry that our person died in accidents or this and that, but he or she had only one life that once. And without suffering, you just went away. So what we call heaven and hell. But that yogic to go above Svarga and Naraka, that comes to Brahmaloka. Because if there is Svarga and Naraka, it is still two parts. But when the Brahmaloka is the Brahman, then it is nothing. There is no pain and no joy. That is like the blue sky. It is all yours. Within no one, in this whole sky. So, my dears, we had a very nice five or six days. You had good practice, and I wish you a good journey when you go home tomorrow. Take care. There are people who are not very good at driving. This year is something not good, and also very good. So we can say, let’s forget this coronavirus. And this is maybe good and maybe bad. Therefore, it is said in a beautiful bhajan, Everything is in Mahāprabhujī and Gurujī, and everything is with us. Every fourth direction is reality. Therefore, it will say four times. It means every direction it will come. Someone will say, "Yes, man, va dire, dire chal gagan ghar chad na re. Yo, man, va dire, dire chal gagan ghar chad na re." Bhakti Devi is well known across Europe as a traditional Indian Bharatnatyam dancer and teacher. Bhakti Devī is known throughout Europe as a dancer and teacher of traditional Indian dance, Bharatanāṭyam. The first dance is traditionally devoted to the god of supreme cosmic intelligence, Gaṇeśjī. Before the dance, we will explain the mudrās. Kachananam with elephant head. Removes demonic powers. I bow down to him and in front of him. Immediately after this, a Sanskrit chant follows: Śrīman Nārāyaṇa. Last week, Śrīvī Śvagurujī was explaining the principle of protective power in the universe, Viṣṇu Nārāyaṇa. This dance narrates the protective principle with the help of symbols and Indian mythology. Last week, Śrī Viśwagurujī explained the principle of protecting the forces in the universe, Viṣṇu Nārāyaṇa. This dance talks about this principle of protection through various symbols and Indian mythology. Anyone who makes photos, per photo is one euro. Not euros. No, no, no. The whole car was 1,000 euros. Not euros. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, of course. O enchanting Nārāyaṇa, O milovaný Nārāyaṇa, I sacrifice flowers to you, obětuju ti květiny. Goddess of wealth Lakṣmī, bohyně hojnosti Lakṣmī, is your consort, je tvoje družka. You have a face like a lotus, máš tvář jako lotus, with eyes like a lotus, s očima jako lotus. Your vehicle is mighty Garuḍa. From your Manipura navel, a lotus has risen. I am adoring your lotus feet, O yogīs. You give blessings and happiness. You are the highest soul, Paramah Puruṣa. Uctívám tě. Now come the first two performances with music. Yare darśana, Mīrābāī is singing a song about her longing for the spiritual ones. Oh my beloved, without you I cannot live. Please come and let me behold you. Without seeing you, I feel like the lotus flower, without water. Like the dark night without moon, jako tmavá noc bez měsíce. That’s how I feel, tak se cítím. Day and night, I walk around restlessly. My heart is breaking. I cannot eat. Nemohu jíst. I cannot sleep. Nemohu spát. For months I cannot speak. What should I say? Be merciful and come to me. Mira is your servant from life to life. Now with music. In this dance, the dancer is inviting God Viṣṇu. The protector of life, to come and dance with her. But, of course, it’s a symbolic language. It is, in reality, a human soul which is searching for the highest one and inviting the divine source to merge with her in oneness. Again, before the dance, we will explain the mudrās. Come to me and dance with me. The bells are jingling on my feet. In the rhythm with my steps. You are playing with the world, but are not my problems also yours? Remove my sorrow, come to me and make me happy. Můžeme hudbu.

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