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Guru is eternal

A spiritual discourse on the eternal Guru principle, divine cycles, and spiritual lineage.

"Brahmā, Viṣṇu, and Śiva will change, but the Guru will remain."

"One should not sit on that chair... I am taking care of this Gāḍī (seat)."

The lecturer delivers an evening talk, exploring the timeless nature of the Guru compared to the cyclical roles of the Hindu trinity. He discusses the concept of the Guru's seat (Gāḍī) in a lineage, emphasizing humility and service, and shares personal reflections on his teachers, including Gurujī and Shanti. The talk weaves together cosmology, caste as spiritual heritage, and the importance of spiritual practice.

Filming location: Vienna, Austria

First, when we come to our spiritual tradition and our guru-paramparā, we recite: "Gurur Brahmā, Gurur Viṣṇu, Gurur Devo Maheśvaraḥ. Gurur Sākṣāt Para Brahma, Tasmai Śrī Guruve Namaḥ." So Brahmā, Viṣṇu, and Śiva will change, but the Guru will remain. Śiva is Śiva at that time, but then in different yugas, differences come. Rāma was different, and when Kṛṣṇa, Viṣṇu came, that was Viṣṇu. So Brahmā, Viṣṇu, and Śiva. Brahmā is one of the creators, and these two, Śiva and Viṣṇu. When Rāma was there, then Viṣṇu was serving. And when Viṣṇu comes, then Śiva is giving to him. So this is both, one after the other: in this, Brahmā and Viṣṇu. They are doing further in this, from yuga to yuga to yuga. So when you see Viṣṇu, you will see that around Bhagavān Śiva. So Śiva comes to Viṣṇu and makes the Śiva for the Viṣṇu. And another time, Viṣṇu is serving, carrying Śiva. So they are coming one after the other. And between these two, one is called Brahmā. And that Brahmā is the creator, so all is in that. These are all three; we have to do activity. But one is eternal, always as the Guru. Not guru like me, maybe you are some gurus, yeah, but we are trying. But it is, the Guru is the greatest one, great. But sometimes we are messengers of the Guru, like a prime supreme or prime minister of the country, but an ambassador is here, the presence of that. Similarly, we all are in the place of that Guru, but it will come, it will come... But it is the same, the gāḍī, the place that is that one. One should not sit on that chair, and only really when it is otherwise... I don't want to say this. Am I? How to say... my, my... that I am? How to say that I'm how powerful or something like this, yeah? But till that is not really that all. These followers, until that it will remain here, that gurū gāḍī, that someone will take. Okay, I am this and that, but still that gāḍī will take that one, Devapurījī's, Mahāprabhujī's, and Gurujī's here. Gurujī has many times, many times, many times been giving this. I don't want to sit up. I want to sit down. Sometimes Gurujī was pulling my ear. "Come here." So this is, but I am not so far. But I am taking care of this Gāḍī. So, Brahmā, Viṣṇu, and Śiva, these are the trinity, and in this trinity, it is always coming. So, when Viṣṇu will come, like this, Bhagavān Śiva will always be there—Śiva and Viṣṇu. And Brahmā, Brahmā is changing. Brahmā will change from Brahmā until it can come back to the little ant. So, Brahmā is that which is transferring. But these two, Śiva and Viṣṇu, they are helping each other like this and like that. But that Gāḍī, when sometimes they say Brahmā is the Gāḍī, Brahmā is Gāḍī. Yes. That Gāḍī Brahmā we have in Rajasthan, near our... where is that? Pushkar. And in Pushkar is that real temple. Yes. And there is this Brahmā's. So Brahmā is the Gāḍī. That is, he is the Gāḍī. Anyhow, after that: Gurur Brahmā, Gurur Viṣṇu, Gurur Devo Maheśvara, Gurur Sākṣāt Parabrahma, Tasmai Śrī Guruve Namaḥ. Dhyānamūlaṁ Gurumūrti, Pūjāmūlaṁ Gurupadaṁ, Mantramūlaṁ Gurukṛpāvaṁ. Guru Bhakya. Guru Bhakya is that. In that we are here, and this is a shelter. And we are under this shelter. We are all here. We are all. And we are all. We are the divine power of that. And so, when we come, we say it. Bhagavān Dīp, Mahāprabhujī, is Viṣṇu. Om Namah Shri Prabhudeepa Narayanam Narayan. Narayan is Vishnu. Vishnu is the Narayan. And so is Śiva. Śiva is the Rāma, Śiva. So Śiva, but Śiva is eternal. One who came first? No, any? Only he comes now. It is a long, many things, stories, and like this. I don't know, but I only tell because all people, great saints, they came together, and they said, "Yes, this is like that." So when there was nothing there from this, so first is that called Śiva. And that Shiva is not very in the first. All five elements are there, and from that comes then together. So first, nirākār, nirākār, nirañjanam, only space, only space. And in that space, there is the prāṇa, the wind, like a wind. And there comes the fire. And the fire there, it's coming then to like earth. But then, coming together, Śiva. Śiva has no mother and no father. So he meditated on himself. And it is he who came in a yoga posture, meditating. And after what we said, that Shiva, but hidden within Shiva, it was the Śakti. And so exactly half left Śakti and Śiva. And exactly that energy that is in all creatures, there is a both. Here, our man, human, for example, he has that energy of the Śakti. And from the Shakti side, to the man is the Shiva, the Shakti. Now, this is not like we are looking—this is man, and this is woman. After remains, after will come that, but these are the energy and all this, not energy, but that conscious in that coming. And with long times, it was different. Many, many things changing in other yugas, something and some something. So we from... There to here, what we are always reading and looking in holy books and everywhere, is that Śiva. And that Śiva is the Guru. From there comes also that. Dhyāṇa Mūlam Guru Mūrti, Pūjā Mūlam Guru Padma, Mantra Mūlam Guru Vākya, Guru Kṛpā. So, there we have the shelter. And under the shelter is, who is by Viṣṇu, Brahmā, Śiva, any, but there is a Guru Gāḍī. And that, like this, what we call Guru Gaṇeśa or something, is a story of one, that one, a great ṛṣi. And the great ṛṣi and the humans, that time was different. Humans are very, but fighting this and that and that. So, a guru or some ṛṣi came and he said to that man, "There is one man like him." So, Guru said, "I give you all power, that you should take care of all people, no fighting, this, that, and you, it is your kingdom." So that comes the king, and that king is also in many creatures. There are all these, like tigers and cats, and this and all. The lion is the king of the forest. They, like this, all the snakes and like this animal species. What is that called? That is a cobra. The cobra can be white, it can be different colors, but that kind, it is like his crown, and that is the crown he has. And when his crown is there, then all the lepers, they are going away. So this Gurujī said, "I give you the name 'Position King,' but king now, it is not for your children and for your wife. And only this, this kingdom, the king is only for the whole." Our kingdom means our country. It is the whole of Austria. And in Austria, your prime minister, or whatever is their head, he is that now. So he should not only do something for your family. Of course, you should have a family, but your whole country is your families. There, you cannot take your child; only this is the best and good. Others cannot. When you are at home, it is in your home. But when you come to your office there, prime ministers, then on that chair is that one. This has been given by many tigers there, lions there, all others like this. So, in that way, we humans, we are humans. We are all good, great. We will come. But still, there is that which he has given to us from Brahmā. And Brahma has created all others, the Sapta Ṛṣis, which come from Brahma. Brahma is there. So, there is one whole story of scriptures in India, from big books and so. And there are these Saptaṛṣis. And from these Saptaṛṣis, the humans came out. And which humans? What was that? It was, and then many came. So, this was the seven, seven Ṛṣis. And these are all children of the seven ṛṣis, and those who were not come after, they have not this. And there comes like a caste. Caste means not bad caste or the like. Now, you know, in Austria, how many these are? They call the kings, or what? Who was this? You know, what is Adler? The biggest, yeah, that is a king who is sitting there? Yes. So, it doesn't matter, it is that, but they are people, still they are trying. Now, even they, everything, but they will try to marry into Adla Adla. Yes, it is. This is not a caste in that way. And so, okay, in India, I should not... I come to in this way. I will show you my... when I got... So my Brahmans and my caste, and my caste is which is Gṛgāchārya. Gragacharya, who made the ceremony of Shiva and Parvati's marriage, Gragacharya made. And also, Krishna's family, the king was there. He was giving, looking at Jyotish, asking the king, he said, "For my daughter, please, can you show which is a good time and which is not like that?" It, and after long, is also Gargācārya. And in the Gargācārya, how many are these? And from that has come, "Who is this? This..." This. I will, should I show you that one day? I will tell you that. Radha will, Radha will then tell me. Okay. Do you want to see? Yeah. So that, so my, so I said a caste. Or not a caste, but the position, or that. That is still from there. There is this: they are all making ceremonies and this and that, all many in that. I will say tomorrow, and from that again from seven, and then came inside many, many... From there, more, because they cannot marry in the same caste, that was again problems. And so they, from these seven ṛṣis, from there going one to two, and there is coming and coming, but still it is in that kind. Now in Kali Yuga, Kali Yuga is mixed, and as it is mixed, it will be Kali Yuga. When is the Kali Yuga? In that creatures, they are all will be gone, and then will come again Kali Yuga of good, and then it will in that way. We have to follow that, and therefore that race is also called the gurus, and that guru is not that I will get born and now, and I said, "I'm a guru, I am master, and I'm gurus." Okay, you have knowledge, and you are talking that, "I'm good, and this," but ask, "Who is your guru? And whose guru is guru? Where is that? I found it." Rather, Shanti has, Shanti has done a lot of work, hard, very much. I'm, I'm very thankful to our... Shanti. That we are there in Guruji, holy Guruji's bhajans, Alak Purījī's, and so that from the Alak Purījī, and Alak Purījī is at that time, that Satyugas, when Shiva, and from it is coming from Satyugas till here. I don't know how many gurus. And how many are there? But at least I came where my blood is running through the Alak Nandi Nanda, Alak Nanda. Yes, in that is that now, because that, it means not blood already like that, but it is from ages and ages. It is inside. Whatever is happening, Earth is Earth, and ocean is ocean. Similarly, we are all from the difference. And so many times, I am thinking, "Where I was, and who is you are?" And I don't even think, "Who is what it is?" But it has some saṃskāra, samādhi, saṃskāra. That it has come there, it will go anywhere, but there it will come again there. And so, in the spiritual—I'm talking about the spiritualities—and in that spirituality, in that guru paramparā, and in guru paramparās, there are many great... Gurus, of course, are greater than me. They are greater and very good, but though they have, that one is not belonging to them. That will come to me or to them, and that all together is only one as a guru, but that gurus will not. Mix in again, so then those who are taking this, "I'm your guru," and that was not good, and you can... Then it means that is a mixing. So that is not this Adla and Adela. Adela, yeah, and others. They are also good. They do not think, but it is. And you saw in that Guru, what do you call them, Gṛgācāryas and dead kings and these who have blue blood. And you see, in certain parts of India, many children are burned. You will see their buttocks are blue. Yes. Our Kapil, yes. So that is still, and they are, and they are, these are all belonging to the Gṛgācārya's disciples. If we go like many, many things there, so my dears, it is saṃskāra. And this saṃskāra, it means we belong there, and we got it. Maybe we did not get it, but it will come. There is, and in that way we go, work we do. Now, this is number one now. There is one mother-child, and another house is also one mother and has a child. Now she will not say, "No, you don't need a child. You should not take a child here." No, she is happy that you have a very nice child, and she said, "Yes, I'm so happy about your child." So they are not jealous, if a boy or the girls or something. Similarly, similarly, this guru and this guru, they are both together, and their guru is giving knowledge somewhere, talking. So other gurus' disciples can go there. So one guru will accept others as his own children. He is his own guru, but he knows that, my dear, your Gurujī is a great Gurujī, but I am here. I take care of you, so we are coming to Kumbh Melā. That is what God calls Kumbh Melā. In which akhāḍā? Every akhāḍā is a seven: seven ṛṣis and seven akhāḍās. And in these seven akhāḍās, we are this generation coming, going, it is this. So this is different. It's many things. We will now say it doesn't matter what it is. We want to have the āsanas and prāṇāyāmas, and okay, I go and I come, they are like not in that caste. Now, I may not cast, taking please the lower caste and higher caste, I'm not talking that, please not that, but it is that we, our caste is only. One, and that is human. It is said, some long ago in some magazines or somewhere rather, told that it is said that humans, the human creation, is in Tibet, and in Tibet, who, the Śiva, and from that begin that. So this is from here, so they. Said it, said it is, the humans are creative. Is in that place, and when they said it is it, and when, where we are here, it was all glaciers. There was a glacier. There's nothing all under, many, many, slowly, slowly... So, for example, we are here like this, Europeans, and our, uh, 70 percent is like the same. Like, our whole construction, our whole body, is like the hill. Other comes difference then, so it is a—we don't want to say otherwise. It... It is a very, very long river, and that side came the people, this side and that side come the others. This is what is called the difference, so they are sometimes fighting. South India, they said, is the real Hindu. Here is thus there that is fighting, is okay, we don't worry. And it is said that now they said that the people in Australia, is this, they are from India, here, South India. And that time this ocean was connected from this in India. And that was connected with this, and slowly, slowly they came with a separate, I don't know where it was, but some people are giving big, very great conferences there, and many people are telling, and now from there they can see from the Earth into the earth, to further they can see. So, anyhow, or more or less, anything, we are here, okay? So, saṃskāra, our karma. So, my karma, perhaps, here, or your karma is with me. Here we are there, and why this karma? Who is that? Shanti was going there, and there sometimes she was playing up. It was easily together, but don't go out again. That was a... she didn't tell me that. I will be very young. The young boy was hungry, and she could tell how to come down. Going up is good, but karma, that is karma. Your life was that, and you came to that life, all to that point now. And it was so hard to touch this point. And now, it's already then, it came into that connection. And so, me, and with this, you all came like this. And in that, you came not in Gujarat, in the Himalayas, but you have now got it. She has, in fact, in depth. Yes, that is it. So that is something, how, so my dear, we are working our yoga, āsanas, prāṇāyāmas, concentrations, meditations. This all is that we are looking for: who am I, who am I, and where am I? I am searching for that, and one day I will come again. And from those who are except that others, it's other all, but that I will not tell you now. Next time, I tell what it happens, what is this. And so, Shanti knows very good, very good. She knows that, but she doesn't know what I want to say. So, is it better? Because either I will tell something, then Shanti will be very angry, then after she will say, "Yes, why? Because that is this, but this is that, and that is it. It has to be, it has to be. I have a skin in my body, yes, but I am not that, but I have to have a skin, and the skin will go on one day, so there is. Furthermore, we are coming, my dear, so anyhow it will be very late, and everyone is coming from a distance. I wish you, my dear, all the best. Meditate and sing, and Gurudev and Līlā Amṛt, Līlā Līn. Read Līlā Amṛt, read others, many things. You see, when I am going to prayers, now I in Khattu, Gurujī was there, and Gurujī knows so much and everything, and the whole Nago district and everybody said only Swāmī Madhavānandajī was the real disciple. Who was day and night doing Śiva? And tell his, "Go to some village and bring the food." So he goes to Gurujī and brings the food, and he will not eat. Bring and put it on Gurujī's bed. Gurujī said, "Put it there," and that's all. He will not say, "Guruji, can we eat now?" No, no. But after this, go and make work, and this, and then Guruji, Mahāprabhujī, comes and calls the holy Guruji, his Guruji's name, "Mother, come, beta, come, my son, I will give you food." Yes? So when Guruji tells, and now Guruji is not here, but how people there, all who are living there, that how was it is only that. After that, things happen differently. I came, I tried, I tried, but there was a difference. Now, I met Alak Purījī, and from Devpurījī—from where is Devpurījī? And that also, Shanti went, and she went here, and she told that, and she did not see or feel. And it is, definitely it is, it is. And it is. I couldn't go to the Ālagpurījīs, go nearly up or down, you can say 5,000 feet, yeah, the height, yeah. But I could come little to Alagpurījī's, at least. And they don't know, and they don't want to tell these people. And they did not tell the name of these, or they did say, and now you know, we have seven holy Gurujīs: Mahāprabhujī's disciples at that time, and so it begins now: Ālakpurījī, Devpurījī's, then Mahāprabhujī's holy Gurujīs: Bodhānanjī's, Brahmanānjī's, Śivānanjī's, is all, and that all are in. Guru paramparas in Siddha Pīṭha in Khatu, and that is thanks to, thanks to Shanti, that she all brought these ideas and this everything, and me and we said we want to, because other, but Mahāprabhujī's think the people, their family people, they all took the. Pictures away, and this nothing, well, it is, it became one house, so everything is there, but Mahāprabhujī's samādhi is there. So I said Mahāprabhujī's samādhi is already here now. All seven, and it's great. You see how nice the ashram is now? It has become our Satyuga. Yes. From Dalak Purījī Śiva till now, here we are. And now we are all, you and me, we are one. We are now who will be the next one, how we'll do. I always now, I tell you that you will see that I have great things I will tell you. So, so now finished top.

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