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We should take one step further

A morning satsang addressing faith, the pandemic, and the soul's journey.

"Any prayer which you like, because finally it's only one. Different countries, different traditions, different religions, different meanings, everything. But they are doing the same thing we are doing."

"Heaven and hell are only what we are doing... So, somewhere we will make very nice, many things, as long as Mahāprabhujī will give to me and also to you."

Swami Avatarpuri welcomes practitioners, discussing the challenges of the coronavirus pandemic and the importance of prayer and discipline. He explores concepts of the soul (jīva), rejecting eternal damnation and explaining heaven and hell as transient states within a cycle of rebirth. He concludes by encouraging deeper meditation practice and promising future initiations for advanced students.

Filming location: Strilky, Czech Republic

Oṁ Namaḥ Śrī Prabhu Dīp Nārāyaṇam. Oṁ Namaḥ Śrī Prabhu Dīp Nārāyaṇam. Haṁsabhādas Prabhusaraṇa Parāyaṇam. Haṁsabhādas Prabhusaraṇa Parāyaṇam. Śrī Deep Nārāyaṇ Bhagavān Kī. Good morning, all dear sisters and brothers. Dobré ráno, drahé sestry a bratři. All yoga practitioners and teachers from different countries, you are most welcome. I am very happy. For me, these have already become holy days. There are two things. We are very happy that very soon you have the Christmas ceremonies, and we are worshipping Jesus and the Holy Mother. This is the time, in December, when all are very happy, coming together, remembering each other, sending letters across distances, and sharing happiness. On the other side, we know that this year was not so good because of the corona and this kind of disease. Many people died in some countries and places—in Africa, in America, in many, many countries, everywhere. They had no place in hospitals, and they did not even have a place for a grave when someone died. So they were putting four or five people together in plastic and putting them down. No family members could go. Here in our Czech Republic and Slovakia, there were many corona problems; maybe a few, or some, died. But your government has managed very nicely. All people were at home, not going away. The government was very controlled and very nice, protecting its citizens. We don't know how long this will happen, but we have to control ourselves, which you have all known many times. They have been writing in newspapers, and doctors, and governments, and all. A vy to víte, protože jste to četli v novinách, slyšeli od vlády, od lékařů, z médií, jste to slyšeli. A my všichni se držíme, my všichni se řídíme velice dobře. This corona disease is not visible, and that is what is terrible about it. In some place, or in the bus, or anywhere, just by touching a hand, the corona is there. So it is said, and you know, to keep at least a one-and-a-half-hour distance. Nobody is hugging, nobody is kissing. When we Indians and other Asian people greet, even on airplanes, they say things like this. In India, they also say namaste. When we say it here, like this, they all say, "What is that?" I have told many things, and you know this. The first thing is that our hands are free. You and I, we are together, and in our heart we are saying, "Good morning, good sir," or "Praṇām," etc., or "Vážený Pane," or "Namaste," or anything else. One person made very beautiful hands, and these prayers are only like this one. That is also said by the Father of Jesus; He was saying like this. Another thing is we are protecting ourselves from other kinds of infections. But many people, they also in India said, "Shake hands." In India, we don't want to say good morning, but now they come to the Western culture. Many ladies, to ladies also, they are saying. Also, the ladies and gentlemen, they are handing like that. In Britain, they will not shake hands. When one says, "Who is older?" and gives the hand, then we should give the hand. And we never—we should not give the hand to the females in British culture. Maybe if someone comes, ladies to lady or something, if she gives the hand, then you should tell. And the traditions, like here in Europe, they also would not shake hands. When the higher person, and we are the youngest, then they will hold your hand like this, but not like this, only a little like this. So that was a kind of respect, but also keeping the distance from any kind of diseases. But now, at times, we don't want to say anything, just go and hug and this and that. Or some man is strong, and one is a little bit weaker, and he takes the high hand and says, "Look, how's the girl? Good morning," and the other one is, you know. So, we have to learn ourselves. For about one or two years, we should be careful. If someone is coming close to you, you step a little back. And your people now here, not you, but all here, when someone is telling them to take the mask, then they will do it. And when they go out of the room, everybody is coming close and laughing, and this and that. So now I'm not giving a lecture, but still I wish very much that we should keep our distance from these coronas, the infections. We said, "Speak nicely, everything, humbleness, kindness, your children, your grandparents." In your house, we have to clean and spray; that is very important for us. And so when you practice your āsanas, prāṇāyāmas, and your prayer—the prayer is the most powerful thing. Any prayer which you like, because finally it's only one. Different countries, different traditions, different religions, different meanings, everything. But they are doing the same thing we are doing. It's only the language that is different. But maybe you will say, "My religion is different. My thoughts are different," etc. But when one will die, it doesn't matter who is who. A great saint or a normal person, when they will go out of the body, then the soul, the jīva, they all will come to one door, and that will go all where it should. They are saying one is the hill and one is the heaven. So how long will people live in the hill, and who will live for how long in the heaven? That they don't know. They think it is terrible things, that we will go to the hill, etc. These and this, torturing this and that, but how long? How many lives? Many ages. But one day you will come out. It's like from one prison, then you have to go out. Or if they are saying that they will die. But there will be a time when you come back. And nobody is here on this earth. Everyone is making new things. The animals are better. Every bird knows its discipline. If the elephant is an elephant, and the tiger is a tiger... But humans make many, many... what we call, differences. So, when the body is gone, then the jīva, the soul, or ātmā, is freedom. They will come to the next life. I would not say that they are in torture after life. I would not say that after death there is some pain, some torture. And what kind of, how will we make the problems there? Is it water, or is it air, or is it space? Humans are making all differences very much. We are making a lot of fear. So then someone asked me, "I came to you, Swamijī, because I don't want to ever be in hell. So, will I come again out?" I said yes. But others said, "No. In this earth, on our earth..." It is the rotation. Our earth is moving. We think the sun is moving. No, the sun is there. But that is moving. Why is one dark night, and why is the light day? When we go out of the sunlight, so we will go into the black dark. Will we be always there? No, it will come again back. For example, you have a bike, and you have one wheel of the bike. So one part of this wheel is on the earth, and the other is on the top. Will that remain ever there? And as we will move from down, comes up, and who is up will come down. So heaven and hell are only what we are doing. But if then it will come and go... That's why it is said, "Guru and disciple." So you can say guru, you can say saint, you can say God, etc. The first is your father, who is coming from the space. Then, coming to the five elements, and then the mother. So the mother and the father, they will not put you in hell. Doesn't matter how naughty your child is, parents will love them. Similarly, God loves us. Gurudev loves us. That's why we all come here, so we should know, and we should hold ourselves. Then be sure, it doesn't matter which God you worship, it's very good. And the same, that God, this God, that God, they all are one. Whenever the jīvā, our soul, goes out of the body, then our body is nothing. Animals may eat. We will burn them, grate them, etc. It's the thing, but jīva is going there. And jīvās are the same. For example, we have here a ball, and it has a light inside, but this light is the same. Light is the same. It doesn't matter if it's a little bulb or a big bulb. Therefore, we should now come a step further. We are practicing āsanas, prāṇāyāmas, and meditations, yoga nidrās. But now you have to come to the high level. In the summer seminars, we will have some kind of techniques that will be a real meditation. Because now we are making meditation okay; we are concentrating, we see the light, the home, the water, the light, the flowers, etc. But this is all outside. Where are you inside? And where is the inside? And who is the inside? That we will do in our seminars, so that you will come high. And for those who are about five or six years or more, I will give them one initiation. That your hands will be like my hands, coming. But don't say that I am God now. Don't say I am guru now. Yes, you are God. You are Guru. You are a disciple, but you still don't know what you are. So, there are many things, and you have time now. It's for you, to give you something. We don't know who is who, when we'll go. I have lived here many, many years, here in these countries. And I know that there are thousands of our brothers and sisters in your country here. So we shall come further. Someone who doesn't like... Then they don't know how to go, so they make the negative thinking. To go out, and then, of course, he's on a different path. We don't know if there's coming hell and heaven, but one day, they will come also again out. So, somewhere we will make very nice, many things, as long as Mahāprabhujī will give to me and also to you. So practice your mala. Mala is what I call the passport of the cosmic self. I am so happy to see you, and for three days my heart has been beating, knowing that you are coming. It's like little children coming from kindergarten; parents are so happy that their child is at home again. So this is nice, thank you. Oṁ Nata Karta Mahudita Śānti Śānti...

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