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Atma is one and body is different

All spiritual paths and centers, rooted in Indian concepts like dharma, are valid worldwide. We must respect every school and not claim exclusivity. Just as many children in a village each have their own family and name, yet all are children, so do various yoga traditions have their own names and forms. They all share the same essence. The goal is oneness. A guru's value is not in the number of disciples but in their knowledge. We are like drops from one vast ocean; though separate, our essence is the same divine source. All humans and creatures contain that divine essence. We must look within to realize our true nature as the cosmic self. Do not compare or denigrate other paths. All lead to the same truth, just as all children return to their homes.

"One should not say, 'Only mine, that's all.'"

"Holy Gurujī said, 'I have only one āśram, and that's our body.'"

Filming location: Ljubljana, Slovenia

Sanskrit and Hindi terms include yoga, prāṇa, mokṣa, samādhi, dharma, saṃskāra... Dharma and saṃskāra come first, and therefore any yoga center, school, āśram, or practice center. The roots are from India, but it is throughout the whole world. So we should respect all yoga centers anywhere. One should not say, "Only mine, that's all." So there are two: yes and no. It is like when one mother gives birth to a child. She and the father and all said, "This is the one child." In that village, everybody said, "Oh, very nice, that is a child. Who? In which house? Who is the father? Who is the mother?" And they know. They give the name: mother's name, father's name, house name. In the same street, the next day, another child was born, and all were very happy again. Likewise, in the whole city or in the whole village. We have now here a beautiful school. How beautiful the children are, playing and happy. We say, "Ah, how are these beautiful children?" All they have is the mother's name, their house; the child will go there. In the whole village, we have our children, and every child will learn and come to the universities and all. They are having different subjects, very nice. Similarly, it is said of all yogas. So in your country, there are many yoga practitioners. They have their yoga center name. They also have the name of the yoga. That's for us. We are happy, very happy. That is yoga. Someone has few students, like one guru has two or three disciples because he doesn't want too many people. And someone has more. And there are some like ourselves. Why not? Even one guru who has no disciples... but he has that power, knowledge, energies. He is like, "They have no disciples. He doesn't want to have disciples." They said, "Why? Somebody comes, and why?" So, as the Holy Gurujī said, one in all and all in one. Then we understand that guru, and this guru, and other gurus. They should be in oneness. So when the guru and disciple come together, then they are so happy, and they are talking with very nice sound, knowledge, and lectures. No one said, "How many disciples do you have? How many āśrams do you have?" Holy Gurujī said, "I have only one āśram, and that's our body." So that is the yoga. One should not say that a yoga center is not good, we don't like that or this. No, never. Then it is that we will bring those humans to the cosmic side. Heaven and hell are only two points. One is cool, another is cool, that's all. So when we said, "When will we see God?" And everybody said, "There is only one God, one, one God." And not anymore one God. There is only God. Did we see that? Yes, on the name or some photos. But we don't know it was that. So, the name is very important. The God, even the God, what we are talking about, we don't know. He's gone, or he died, or whatever it is. But the name remains. The name will remain. And on that name, what will you hold? This name? The whole life holds our name. And this name, after that, even the name, but within there is something more, something in it. And that we should hold everywhere. Then people try to pull down someone, and they think, "I am best, and I am best, and I am best." Now they are about politics. That primary is the best. Others said it's not good, this and this and that. Now, in Kali Yuga—this is a Kali Yuga—in the last ages, they were asking, "Please, you should become president. Please, you should be the best one here. You are." And we said, "No, no, you do, please." And how are we now? This is different. In our village, in our city, all are saying, that is the person, very spiritual, everything. And he's not taking from anybody anything. So that's what we call a god. How many times have you gone in an aeroplane? I also sometimes went in airplanes. I look up, I look down, I didn't see God. Close your eyes and please think: have you seen God? And think, if you have seen God, because there is the sun, yes, you are being this side. You should look within yourself here. Bring this here. Think within thyself. And now you can open your eyes. What have you seen? Yes, you know. And this photo is on this side because the sun is setting, and the picture will be getting peeled. That's why I'm putting it in the sanctuary. Now, I'm coming further to the other points, the same thing, yes? So we come now to the point of the ocean. Very big, very big, very big, very big, very big ocean. And water is very heavy also. Yes, it is like the earth also. So water is holding the earth. That much power has the ocean. And now, from the heat, the waves go up. And this going up, though it is very heavy, it is already in the sky. And then it begins to come, as rain is coming, and very fine drops are coming, and all becomes one by one drops and becomes good. It comes on the earth and goes to the river. You all know more about this than me, but what I want to tell you is this. So they take one drop of the water in our palm, and we are going with the sheep in the ocean, and we see water is in our palm, and there's the ocean, and there's one drop only. It's water, it's a drop. And when this drop, we will drop it on the ocean. This one little tiny drop becomes the whole ocean. You can turn this way, look this side. Yes, Gurujī is good. So tomorrow we should please take care, okay? Or you can put it there. Gurujī is going all over the world. Come on. As it is, let my Gurujī, Kedārśana Kī. I'm sorry, but our Gurujī, and I don't want that for the sun, it will always go away. So the best photo is black and white. That is one of the best. You see, in university or college or anywhere in the West, there are black and white photos. Then it can be in the sun. And it will become more beautiful. Sorry to disturb you between other languages. So we came in the whole ocean. It was the ocean; it becomes clouds and drops, comes on the earth, and flowing down, we take one drop of water, and it's water only. But when it goes in the ocean, it becomes the ocean. How many drops? How much? Similarly, there is only one God. And only that one God, like one ocean, and from that we are becoming many, many drops. So on this earth, or in water, life, animals, many. 8.5 million creatures, and from them, one is the human. It doesn't matter if it is from Slovenian people, Italian people, Africa, China, India, etc. It doesn't matter which color, how high, how it is; it doesn't matter. But human, so when we say that he is human, he is only one. After we can say this country, people, this country, people, and so on. So again, oneness. So any creature, any tiny ant, God has made everything, everything, and also for us and other animals. But inside is that one drop that is only that God. And we all are God, because we are the essence of God. And when this one drop will go, then the whole body is different, nothing. So one has to come to the oneness. Now we think in the body differently. And this is, everyone is running here and there. But that inside the soul, the ātmā, that is one. Everything is one. And I was many times thinking, and Gurujī has given us, and Gurujī's word was what? One in Koen, and the other one in Uruha. So now I will tell you also. You are all here, human. And now we can tell this name, and this name, and this name, how many you are. Similarly, if we see that one is God, which has been, and he is in the space, how we don't know, we don't know. But God has given, I give you all. Now, it depends what you will do. I said I want that you come to the Cosmic. But we don't know if we are doing, or we are not doing. So don't think, "Where should I go? What is God?" There is nothing. So we should search within ourselves. We are there. And I taught many times, in the morning when we have open eyes, we wake up. We should say many times, "What do I tell?" Yes, I am human. And when I am a human, then you are already awakened as a god. So I am a human. What should I do, and what should I not do? Because each and every creature is the same, God, they, and you. Then we will say, "Yes, now I am awakened, and I will try to go to the Cosmic Self." There are two different types of life in our body. One is what we call the soul, which is going. But in our body, there are many, many different types of living beings. And they cannot die; they cannot die immediately with. It takes time until everything in the body is destroyed. And when it is put in the earth, still there is living. That other one is gone, but still there in body. And remain in the earth, and different kinds of animals come inside, developing inside. And there is also life. Doesn't matter if it's a human life like this or other inside. So, therefore, mostly they said it should be burned. So then your ātmā, your soul, whatever, it will go further. So if we want to go very deep into that, how we can, or yogic, or whatever it is—if we don't say the yogīs, some are making meditation or many, many things—they know what it is. In this way, let's think that I am one in all and all in one. Life, life. Our trees, there's an immense number of these different souls inside. When we cut the tree, we see that it's dead, dying. All leaves are getting down. So when we practice and we say about this and that, your bodies, your beautiful face, that is this, that is this, this is different. But as humans, we are one. And therefore it is said, God is always. So, one God is that, and the second is: all we are Gods. And some are going in different directions, so these are your qualities like that or something. And someone is really on that part, like as a god we believe. And so those spiritual people, those like gurus or whatever you said, they are giving us some kind of knowledge. But now we know, and we know, and you know, the people are very far. They are learning so many things, everything. The aeroplane is standing and everything, what I am talking now, here, and in America, they are listening to my lecture. In Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Canada, everywhere, our yoga is in their life; they are listening. Many, many of our disciples, and there, you know. You can ask if somebody is a bhakti in other countries, yes, they are sitting and listening. So it was that a ṛṣi or yogī, or whoever they were, could speak with the disciples, and they could speak from a far distance. And now we became all ṛṣis, so we all have this, everything is there. So the father said to the child, "Don't worry, you have everything in your hand." So, really, yesterday and the day before yesterday, there in Atlanta, they were listening, learning, and listening to our lecture here from Slovenia. And when I stopped, they asked me the question. And he said, "Swāmijī, there will be a conference, and please, can you come, and so on." Through this voice from here. So we humans are great, very good, and we should not say that doctors are not good. Doctors are very good, and also Āyurvedic, all are good. But some things are there, either inside good or bad. And that is this. So, all, you are great, Saul, you are great, and God is sitting here. God is here in the grass. God is everywhere. So when we want to bring the more to this path, to the cosmic self or this, then we should know one comes from the north, from the south, from the west, from the northeast. So we are all in one place, but the path is different. Everything good there is different, but we all come at one, and so is that what I said in my lecture now, that all yoga teachers, yoga schools, and names of that, they should all, and it should be, and we all try to bring the Spirituality and yogic means are for all humans and for all good. So in this school, not only one child, but there are many children. Means also many mothers and fathers. But we are all in our school. That's it. So this is very good to come. Don't say, "No, that's not good. I am best, and that's good, and this." We should not go like that. You can play with all our children, and they will go home, but all of them will go to the right point, to their father and mother at home. And so we have to make the world peaceful, spiritual, everything. So anyone will give you teaching in the school, but finally all the children will be brought to the mother and father. So that is how we become oneness. So at that time, in our heart, we will say, "Oh yes, oh yes." So this technique, this practice, this all, we sell so many, and we should help them. They said, "You can come, and you should learn from us." Tomorrow we will give further. This was on the one point only: one sound, nāda-rūpa, para brahma. Nāda, sound; rūpa, beautiful; and God, nāda-rūpa. Nāda is the sound, my voice sound, when it came from my mouth out. In how many houses? Persons who listen in many countries, very far. So to learn this, and that means karmic. It becomes karmic. What words you will speak, it comes back positive or negative. In Corona, negative is better, but on the other hand, it's always better positive. So let's come, it comes immediately, immediately. My voice is going from here. To let's say, to America and coming back to me, same time back, and not only me, someone who is teaching with me, but sitting and translation. Yes, and if she will come slowly, slowly, I will say, "Come quickly." So how we are, this means God knows everything through the Holy Spirit. In that voice, I can only see and speak so far. But the scientists, they made it the sound that we don't know, but it is gone there. And so, in the whole space, there is hope. This prāṇa is beautiful. So we have to go out through to our God or whatever, Brahmaloka. And now we have to find ourselves, through all these sounds, to come to our Brahmaloka. Śrīdībṇār, Bhagavān, Kṛṣṇa.

This text is transcribed and grammar corrected by AI. If in doubt what was actually said in the recording, use the transcript to double click the desired cue. This will position the recording in most cases just before the sentence is uttered.

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