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A Discourse on Dharma, Diet, and the Spirit of India

A spiritual discourse on dharma, diet, and cultural identity.

"Food belongs to Bhagavān Śiva. All living beings consume other living beings; they consume other living beings."

"We are all Hindus, Vindu, human beings. But earlier, this was not here; it was revealed later by them."

A speaker, likely a spiritual teacher, addresses a gathering, weaving together observations from travel abroad with concerns for India's spiritual and cultural fabric. The central theme is adherence to traditional Hindu dharma, with a strong focus on vegetarianism as a non-violent principle, criticism of meat-eating and foreign influences, and a call to preserve indigenous language and essence over external practices like the use of English. The talk is discursive, covering caste, illness, and anecdotes about encounters in Europe.

Filming location: Jaipur, Rajasthan, India

Victory to Dev Puruṣa Mahādeva, victory to Mādhavān Jī Bhagavān, victory to mother, father, and Gurudev, victory to the eternal truth of Dharma. Oṃ śānti hi, śānti hi, śānti hi. I had just returned from Europe. I did not know before what exactly has been done. The people of our India would never do such a thing, but we do not know. Those who are doing it do know, but others, we do not know. These are the Christians—Christians, right? In your place, there, for all of them, and for everyone, when to do it. Understand that from there, it is all China. You know how vast and complex their work is. It is such a big place that living there is not even feasible for us, so we cannot be taken there. However, work is being done; they are doing it, but the food is not very good for you all. You know, I have been living there for over 40 years. This is my place, the place of my Bābājī, Mādhavān Jī Bhagavān. This is our temple, this is our āśrama. The land for this āśrama was given by our Gurudev Mādhavān Jī Bābājī. It is like a forest, this entire small area. This is the name, small yet significant, and now see how beautiful and vast it has become. There are many like this, dear friends, many people filled with love. We are all from India, and who among us belongs to which part of India and who does not—some do not know this, and even if they do, they neither speak nor act upon it. And in other places, in our India, those people all eat meat; they eat various kinds of animals, so they are harming them, whereas in our Hindustan, throughout the whole world and elsewhere... They were originally Hindus long before us, and from another place. From there, they have made all of us like this—that we do not perform any work. There are many countries, some small countries, and I live there. Here and there, I have... I said that I saw he was someone who ate meat, this is that, this is that, but I stayed on a little longer. Those people used to come to me, they practiced yoga, but when it came to eating, they ate meat. So I said that I do not do that because I do not want to kill animals or eat them. Food belongs to Bhagavān Śiva. All living beings consume other living beings; they consume other living beings. There are many different animals around them—cows or others—but they do not eat meat. Others do. The animals are very large, but inside our Himalayas, and Bhagavān Śiva has... How much has been given to us, how much of it belongs to us as Brahmins—whom they also call Brahmins, anyone really—but the people of our Bhārat have seen that we are humans. Animals are those who just eat and drink, that is what they do. But we are Hindus, we are humans. Where is the human? It is indeed human. So all are animals, but then Bhagavān Śiva explained that as many... What has happened is that by giving and receiving, it becomes theirs. So please listen. Secondly, many other things are very beautiful in our bhajan; it remains beautiful. Everyone comes—how beautifully our people of India live, they come and go. Whoever comes to the house, whatever it is, it is quite mine. So I am this much... I am living there not because of the countries, so some words come to me about how in our India there is such brotherhood, sisterhood. Within one village, in our village, they treated their own brothers and sisters equally, and then elsewhere, the sādhakas... When they leave, they leave—that is how it is. How much of it, for how many days they stay—some people stay for five days, some even longer. But it is out of love, it is because of love that they stay. Now it is yours; when you come in the morning, you are told to sit down, have some tea or water. He went there, got married somewhere, got married somewhere else, somewhere among the trees... trees. And if someone tells others to remove their masks or do something, then they say to such people that this belongs to a certain caste, this does not, this is, and that is. Caste, caste—first of all, caste is what it is before Bhagavān, ours is this, theirs is that, but that is... So, we are the human beings; there is no one else. That is not someone else; that is the same for everyone, for all. Whether someone appears great or small, they are all the same. We are all Hindus, Vindu, human beings. But earlier, this was not here; it was revealed later by them. Now see, this is exactly that very caste, that very caste. Keep doing caste, keep doing it. In doing so, so much has been done within our India that it causes great sorrow. It has happened, it has happened, but still it has happened. Along with that, what had to be said was the same—that in our country, in our Rajasthan... Why am I, why am I—if I become a tomato, then I see. When I lived here for some time, it is a matter of the past, Pāpajī, if a person went to Magān, then no one would bring an egg; if they took eggs, no one kept them separately in the kitchen. Others, when people killed that animal, I have seen. I have been here, I have been here. You may not have your own world; everything was small before, but now everything has been done. Even the egg comes out separately there, because what is an egg? It is that within my body, there is life, right? There is an egg too, so that is also there, isn’t it? And that is an animal. It takes, it comes, and it does come; they separate them individually, otherwise, initially, they just sit with it. What has it done now? Then inside it, and what do they say? They say that if you do this, that is not there, this is not there. In the same way, it is an animal, it is a bird. That belongs to the one it is meant for—that egg, that egg is not for this food; it is for the bird, for the animal, whoever it may be, it belongs to them. And if we take it and break it, it does not go to us. Have you seen what is eaten? Let’s see. No, inside it is what belongs to it, inside it is... You say you are a hundred percent well, but the diseases do come within. And you know that at that time, when you were younger, there were not so many illnesses. How many doctors did you have then? There was hardly any concern. In those places, how many doctors were there at that time? Here, give this, and now here, how much—from there to here, all have come, alright, everything is fine. There should be a doctor, and this—but at that time, we could not treat so many illnesses. And a little later, whatever happened, happened. But now it is such that even the doctor says, "Eat eggs," but don’t stand there saying, "Brother, no, no," that’s not good. To do what is theirs, to observe their illness, and now you will see how much illness there is. Now we will see how much, because this is how we treat animals—by doing this and that, causing this and that. But hey brother, why should they do it to us? If I have the Mahā and it comes without us, then... Does anyone start eating the kitten? No, that does not happen. The cow, the goat, the buffalo, the donkey, the dogs, the birds—all of them, even what they do not have, are still living beings, right? They have parents, just like us. So, the one who takes from them is very much... If you are from India, you might eat like animals, but how good are we Indians? How many temples do we have? And the monkey has its own temple. In the temple, it is only Bhagavān who resides, and we go inside that temple. Why do we go? Because we pray to Bhagavān. We will remain healthy, we will all do this, we will do that, then we go. But those others, this is a matter of importance, I say, so how have they done it? But killing animals, doing harm, tearing them apart, that is very free for them. Now see, you know that you were Namaskāra Luga or Gaṇa Harāpa. The size might be, maybe it is less, yeah, not otherwise. Earlier, there were the Bhindus, us and our place. Now see, Christians have come from there. Christians, you see, in Christians, do you only take your children there? What do they say? Don’t they say they do Bible catechism? What do they do? What do we keep saying about the Muslims? And Muslims are fine; what they are, they are, and their reality is as it is. But the others—where do you send your children to school? Are we not human beings? Don’t we have a message? Whatever I tell you about our Hindustan and our people... So what are they doing? They are not leaving it, nor are they watching it. Otherwise, see, I am in Austria, I am in the Netherlands, in these countries, everything. So every country’s customs are completely different here and there, but they have been taught that way, it must be different for them, just tell them in English what it is. They are all my sisters sitting here. Wherever you are, it is within you, and it belongs to you. The other one was with the first two together, but it happened near this house. However, it is a small village, and those people will remain here now. You have all come to create, so you are here. Now tell me, with which words are you getting bound inside? Right now, it’s just English, English, English—what are you doing with English? Yes, that should be done, but the essence of our India should be within us first. There is study, and after my study, if they need it, then there is study. But within this, you go to it and operate it—you know it. Now, all of this has come. So, as soon as they speak English, that English belongs there; its name is English, right? But that English one, you know, the English one, and our Hindu one, ours—first of all, how many of us are there, our community, and how excellent it is, and how many subscriptions does the English one have, and the Hindu one is ours—so for that, but still, we cannot go to it. So, along with that, we... To do that, to let it go, he can do that. So now, I was telling something very different earlier, then what do they do? Now see, what do I see? That now they have seen that within Bhārat, no, in the entire world, they have so many small animals, small ones. There are so many tiny creatures, you see. He brought them from the chāyara, and by applying it to the chāyara, he applied it to him as well. Now they multiply inside him, and he feeds them all. Now, by killing so many of those creatures or doing something like that, you become one with them; you can see in someone else, and you have eaten that. So when we say they don’t even realize it, yet they are doing it, and today it has come to this point—inside India, the Christians, they have taken them in. So the one who was watching, another one joins with him. Those who are from our country, here, they are like this. Inside, now you should say this: what is this exactly, who has celebrated it and who has not? Within this, those of us here in India may not remember much now, but they do know. They do not say it aloud, but it is there, and it has been written down, it has been documented. They have come from China, after China they have come here, and... We call our Hindustan "Hindu" because it is ours, our emphasis is here. But how pure is it really? Are all these clothes good? Clothes can be replaced, but they pray and live in the temple, they come, drink good water, take fruits—that is there, but... There is no other than Him within. They have done so much with some, some with fifteen, five, five, ten—today it is like that. He is an animal, like these small, small ones... They have taught that and brought it to the upasāb and said that this is very much, it is good to eat. Now how are we eating, brother? Now accept that if it is consumed, it will be strong; it is indeed strong, so it happens. Is there nothing? No, there is something. But what happens is that the path leads to death. The living beings consume other living beings; they are the ones who consume. They have come to consume. That is why I have told you that within this country of ours, just look at how many of our people in India have started eating meat, and yet... If it is like that of Kapil Jī, then among Kapil Jī's family members, ninety-nine plus eighty percent do not consume meat. Secondly, they have subscribed; otherwise, this belongs to them—one is with us here, and the other is from our rūpāvas. The awakened ones will all go from village to village... So, that is not it either; they do not eat meat and so on. By doing such things, what will happen to a person after practicing them? And now it has come to the point where one says that you should not even have to eat this. Now it has happened that when one thinks, this is the Kali Yuga that has come, and in this Kali Yuga, now man is no longer truly human. We have indeed entered the Kali Yuga, the age of Kali. We have many, but not as many as before. Now, look, when I have established all this in so many countries, instructing everyone not to eat animals, to do this and that, how many of those people have become yogic? It seems that Mother is sitting there. Quickly, very good, quickly. Don’t eat meat, do you eat meat? No, you see, the Hungarian one, no, not at all, not at all. Those who are my disciples, if they want to say something, then mostly, when they come back here, they tell these people. I tell you, I have come by aeroplane. I come by airplane, so just see that even there, people go to different places, not knowing their own destination. There is the industry, there are Hindus, whatever they are, and then there are Muslims and others as well—they all belong to the country. But when you observe, just look now, when you travel by airplane... And from that airplane, those who come, my deities, you are so concerned about the thirty percent there—those people, some are Muslim, they do not consume meat or alcohol, those who are bar owners, you see. And there, look inside your airplane, especially among the passengers, it is said how many there are, how much it takes. Have you ever seen that? Our people go there, and when they come, they are told to eat and are taken care of. I have just come from India, and there, inside India itself, quite far away, there is a school, very large and very rare. Two men came there. That school, those gods, they stay in dire straits. If there is a problem to be fought, then there, they are such that they are carnivorous. They belong to those people, but they belong to our German. There were two Germans, so this was just yesterday. So it happened there, and two sons sat down like animals. But the man, the children, and inside the college, I came to sit with them for duā, I saw them, I looked at them, now he doesn't know who I am, who that is, I am not from this, I am not that, but I saw him, so to those people, I asked, what do you eat, you know, so those people don't do that. There are two men; one is from school, and the other is a German man. The German said that we do not eat meat here. Not only that, the people who do eat meat, we also take milk and such from their cows. If they have a child, then it is their child. Why do we do this? It is because this has come from foreign lands. It is good that they have stopped eating meat. And when they came here, they saw that someone had eaten, but no one objected. That is why you do not realize it, and because of this... What all is inside the inner self is like the essence of the year within. Before making sweets and such in our home, you yourself prepare them within us. Now, where you have made and given, we do not know what has been made or not made. That is why, by preparing and arranging our own food within the home itself, only then will you remain. Otherwise, you don’t even know what you have done, do you? What I mean to say is that what you always do now, this is what you do for yourselves, but those people have done it within themselves. So, bringing it into your own home and taking it as your own, if you do it for us, then it is yours now and not others'. He gave it, and then everyone was made to do it. Just see, he made us do it very well, not just us but throughout Europe. And from Europe to Europe—that means, if they do that, the body will remain healthy and free from disease; otherwise, it seems good, doesn’t it? It feels good, right? It is there, it is there, but see how many illnesses are coming, and those doctors are excellent doctors. The doctor gets money, the doctor assures that you will get well, they will get well, but the person is going, going, going. So, are they good doctors? No such claim. Doctors do their work, doctors are ours. People try to do it correctly, but they... Should I tell you that at our home, the grains stored are given to them to eat, otherwise, we have our own cows and their milk, which is so healthy and beneficial. So just observe this. Listen carefully, it has come here, see, it hasn’t come to our place near Bangalore, but those people have started it there. Now others are not even finding out; even our own people here... If there is pain in the body and everything is like this, then for this very reason today I have explained what this is—that in Christians, their eating and drinking, inside them, there is an animal, that animal, and something else is needed. I have told you this, and you... We will not treat such animals like that, nor will we eat them, and as for our children, first of all, leave them with the best English. First, listen to what we have to say—is our language not good enough? Just look at how well we speak today. Even if you don’t tell the king, tell these others, see how many there are. What is the creator, but now you say that the children are good, they know English, English,... English. They are their children. Bābā says that they take the children and do the same with them. So, taking that inside once will not be good. First, it should be done properly in our language, in Sanskrit and so on, and then do the other. There is no... Wrong is not wrong, it is not like that, it is not wrong. But since we have lived inside India, we have lived here, so you have done it, you have confused India, yet we have remained slowly, gradually... That water is indeed water, but it was just a little water. So how did that water gradually become soaked? That is the matter. I am doing it, Aśīrī Prabhut, Mośīrī Prabhut, Maham Śabadāj Prabhut, Śabadāj Prabhut... Śrī Dīpa Nārāyaṇa Bhagavād Oṃ Śānti Śānti... Victory to Ārīyas, Iśva, Gurumār, Maleśvara, Parāṇa, Sammāśāraji, and Gurudev as well.

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