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To understand this complicated explanation, I have a story for you. What I am explaining may be too complex, so relax and enjoy. The story is about a meditator, a yogī, a holy man—whatever you may call him. He was sitting in the rocky mountains somewhere, in a beautiful cave with a beautiful waterfall and beautiful weather. He was sitting there, meditating in nature. A hunter came. The hunter had a gun in his hand and was running behind a deer. The deer was quicker than the hunter. It disappeared behind a rock and went into the forest somewhere. Behind that rock, the yogī was sitting and meditating. The hunter came near the yogī and did not see the deer anywhere. He wondered which direction the deer had run. So the hunter went to the yogī and asked him, "Sir, can you tell me which direction the deer ran?" This is what is called a complicated situation. If you tell the truth, you commit a sin because an innocent animal will be killed by that hunter. If you tell a lie, that is also a sin. The yogī had been following the principle of truth his entire life. And now the time had come—it was the examination, the test. How strong was he in following the principle of truth? If he tells, is it a sin? If he doesn't tell, he breaks his principle; is that also a sin? Our neck is under the saw. It doesn't matter which direction you move; it will cut. He was praying to God, saying, "God, what should I do?" And the answer came from his inner self. This situation happened so quickly; it had to be solved very quickly. There was no time for arguments. You have to have the viveka (discernment). Within seconds, you have to decide. That's it. When you drive a car and you are very near a crossroad, and the light is turning red, as a good driver you have to act immediately to stop the car. You cannot look at your watch and think it was said the green light would last 20 seconds, and, "My God, it's only been 18 seconds." That is too late, my dear. We have to act immediately. There are certain things where we have to decide, and there you can only go to your inner self, and the inner self will say what to do. These are the circumstances. The hunter said to the yogī, "Sir, what can I tell you? It's very peculiar." So the yogī said, "What do you mean, 'very peculiar'? I am just asking you, have you seen the deer? In which direction did he run away? That's all." The yogī said, "Yes, sir, I can tell you something. Those who have seen the deer cannot speak. And those who speak and say that they have seen cannot see. So I don't know where the truth is. That's it. My eyes have seen, but they cannot speak. And my mouth will speak and say something to you, but it has not seen." So the hunter said, "Crazy man, let's go. Please, meditate further." This situation is within the qualities and the body and senses. Ātmā is not a doer, neither the doer nor the one who is suffering, the receiver. The doing is of the body, our senses, and they are facing the consequences or suffering the consequences. Recording location: Canada, Vancouver, Swamiji's World Tour