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Svarga

A satsang discourse on the nature of heaven and hell as internal states.

"I miss this. It feels like a loss." "So Svarga and Naraka, hell and heaven, both are here... Svarga and Naraka are in our mind."

Swami Avatarpuri responds to a devotee's message expressing longing for past satsangs, using it to explain that heavenly (Svarga) or hellish (Naraka) experiences are not external locations but creations of one's own mind. He illustrates this with a joke about religious groups in heaven and concludes that our perception shapes our reality, allowing both states to exist in the same physical space.

Recording location: Czech Republic, Strilky, Summer seminar

They remember and follow only that. Swāmījī, what did you speak about in satsaṅg today? Mukti says, "I am always meditating, and I don't see anything. I only see that you are sitting with the whole group under the tree, giving nice satsaṅgs. And in the evening, you are sitting on the meadow, giving nice satsaṅg and bhajans. I miss this. It feels like a loss." You see, this is Svarga Loka. That is Svarga Loka. But we are doing, where we are, we are in Svarga. There, where I am, I am in Svarga. It cannot be different in Svarga. It cannot be otherwise. Svarga means heaven. So, in Svarga there is also jealousy and everything. There are also complaints and some grievances. There is a joke about heaven. Heaven has a very high, big wall. On one side of the wall, some people from a particular religion were sitting in heaven. That religion said only those who believe in our God will come to heaven; others will not. So those who believed in this God were in heaven, sitting and talking. Suddenly, on the other side of the wall in heaven, somebody was also talking. One of the men asked the others, "Who is talking behind the wall here?" He said, "They are from that other particular religion; they think they are alone in heaven." They think only they will come to heaven. Now they are surprised that we are all from different religions sitting in heaven here. They said, "How could this happen? We thought only we would come to heaven." So this also happens in heaven. Heaven means haven. So if it is, then it is here. Svarga Loka is on the earth. And Naraka Loka is on the earth. So Svarga and Naraka, hell and heaven, both are here. And in one room, God can show both things. One person is very content and happy. For this person, it is Svarga. And another person is very sad and angry, and jealous—a horrible life. That is Naraka. So Svarga and Naraka are in our mind. Therefore it is said: this world is created out of the mind. And all the situations that you feel around you are created out of your mind. So your mind within a minute can create heaven, and in the next second can create hell. How you think is how you feel. Recording location: Czech Republic, Strilky, Summer seminar

This text is transcribed and grammar corrected by AI. If in doubt, what was actually said in the recording, use the transcript to double click the desired cue. This will position the recording in most cases just before the sentence is uttered.

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