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Svarga and naraka

A spiritual discourse on the concepts of heaven, hell, and human suffering.

"In the forest is svarga. In the town or city is naraka."

"Everything is here, but you are still afraid. And it was here before. And you were not aware of it."

A master answers a disciple's question about the locations of heaven and hell, defining them as the forest and the city respectively. The speaker elaborates on the miseries of urban life, focusing on fear, the pursuit of money, and the psychological trap of possession and lack. He questions where true bliss (ānanda) is found, concluding with teachings on sacrifice and renunciation from Holy Gurujī and Mahātmā Gandhi.

Recording location: Czech Republic, Strilky, Summer seminar

A disciple once asked his master, "Master, where is heaven, and where is hell?" "Svarga or naraka?" the master replied. "In the forest is svarga. In the town or city is naraka." In the great cities, full of disturbances and kleśas, day and night people run here and there in pursuit of one thing: money. They live with great fear—the fear of existence Patañjali spoke of yesterday. Consider this financial crisis; see how helpless humans are, how they can be manipulated. How do people get this fear? The money did not disappear into the sky. It did not flow into the ocean. Everything is here in this world. Všechno je tady, ale vy se pořád bojíte. A předtím to tady bylo. A vy jste si toho nebyli vědomi. (Everything is here, but you are still afraid. And it was here before. And you were not aware of it.) To have and to have not—that is the problem of the human psyche. When you have something, you have a problem. And when you do not have it, you also have a problem. Where is ānanda? Holy Gurujī said, "Enter the kingdom of the Lord through the gate of sacrifice." Mahātmā Gandhi often said, "Renounce and enjoy." We have two options. Either we renounce free will, or we have to renounce it. It means leave everything here, and we die. All goes. Recording location: Czech Republic, Strilky, Summer seminar

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