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How to control the swadisthan chakra

A spiritual discourse on the nature of the Self and the obstacles to realizing it.

"You are the Ātmā. This Ātmā is a form of peace, and that peace is thyself."

"But between the Ātmā and our present knowledge, there are obstacles. Those obstacles are known as Mala, Vikṣepa, and Āvaraṇa."

Swami Deep Narayan delivers a satsang on the Ātmā as one's true, blissful, and immortal Self. He explains the three primary obstacles to this realization: Mala (impurity), Vikṣepa (disturbances), and Āvaraṇa (the curtain of ignorance). Using stories, jokes, and teachings from masters like Mahāprabhujī, he advises purification, guarding against negativity, and seeking satsang to remove these veils and experience one's true nature.

Filming location: Prague, Cz.

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Saiyuktaṁ nityadhyānīyo kāmadaṁ mokṣapadaṁ che oṁkārayānamo brahma nandaṁ parama sukhadam kevalaṁ jñānamūrtiṁ bhavati tattvaṁ triguṇarahitaṁ satgurutattvaṁ namāmi. Oṁ śāntiḥ śāntiḥ... Deep Narayan Bhagwanaki spiritual seekers, the children of one Father, the cosmic, the universal Lord, the devotees, aspirants—we are here to understand this life and to know something, meaning our divine Self. You are the Ātmā. You are the Supreme Soul. This Ātmā is Śānti Svarūpa. It means this Ātmā is a form of peace, and that peace is thyself. It is not within you; you are that. This Ātmā is bliss, and that divine bliss is thyself. This Ātmā is that happiness which we are searching for day and night. This Ātmā is immortal; no weapon can kill it, no element can destroy it, and death cannot take it away. This is immortal, everlasting, blissful, and divine. This Ātmā is the Ānanda Svarūpa. Ānanda means the divine bliss, and Svarūpa means the form. So, thyself is that divine happiness and peace. That is why every entity is searching day and night for peace and happiness, but that happiness is not outside. It is inside of you. But between the Ātmā and our present knowledge, there are obstacles. Those obstacles are known as Mala, Vikṣepa, and Āvaraṇa. Mala means impurity—impurity in eating, physical impurity, emotional impurity, intellectual impurity, mental impurity. This kind of impurity will not let us see the clear Ātmā. Where there is impurity, love doesn't come. Where there is impurity, the Divine Śakti doesn't come. And where there is impurity, the Mother Sarasvatī, the Goddess of Wisdom, will not come. Therefore, purify, purify, purify. Spirituality means purity. Pure means the spiritual. Often we think negative. Often we give some commentary which is not correct. Very often, you begin to think something. You hear from someone, and then you begin to speak something. That becomes a negative characteristic. For you, negative karma is like a very big, heavy rock, and you have to cross the ocean. This big rock is hanging from your neck; this rock will pull you down. And like this, sometimes in life, you come across a rock, you think this is a good friend, you think this is a good person, but sooner or later, it becomes that rock which will pull you down; it will not let you cross the ocean. Because through your impure feeling, through your impure thinking, through the negative talks—what we call blackmailing—you develop that rock on your neck or tighten it on your neck. Long ago, I saw one poster from International Amnesty. There was one room, a small room like a basement, which had only one window, a small window, and the sunlight was coming in. There was sitting one pigeon, and on the leg of the pigeon was tied a chain with a 20-kilo iron ball. The window is open, light is there, the feeling is there to fly away, willpower is there, but with a 20-kilo heavy weight, that pigeon cannot lift it. Like this, many of us are imprisoned by certain qualities which are not your quality. Someone else has given you this. That was blackmailing. Ten days ago, I was in a beautiful program. First, I had a multi-religious dialogue program in London. Then, there was one beautiful big program organized by the Brahma Kumaris. The Brahmakumarīs organized a great program. Almost 10,000 people were present. Famous singers and musicians were invited to celebrate the birthday of one of the oldest ladies, who is the leader of the Brahmakumaris. They called her Dadi. Dadi means grandmother. She spoke few words, but very nice. She said, "You have peace in you, and keep this peace in you. Morning, when you get up, just for half a minute, or ten seconds, or one minute, before you get out of your bed, think of peace—śānti, śānti, śānti. This peace will guide you the whole day. Don't listen to others," she said. "When someone begins to talk negatively about someone, immediately stop. Don't let other negative thoughts enter you. What will happen? This negative thought will come into you, and it will take your peace away. And that one who came into you will also go away. And what will remain? Yourself, in darkness, without peace." Very wise words. When you speak in Hindi, it is a more beautiful sentence. So, you have peace in you. But many negative gushing up takes you away. So, we are imprisoned by that blackmailing, and we are imprisoned through our emotional problems and intellectual complexes, and we are lost. Therefore, impurity, Mala, will not let you realize that to yourself. Keep away from the impurity, negative thinking, and negative words. The second is called Vikṣepa, disturbances. One man was meditating, sitting near the bank of the river. Beautiful weather, and he was sitting under the tree. One farmer came. The farmer was thinking, "This man must be lonely. Hours and hours he is sitting alone there. He must be sad." So the farmer felt pity and went to that man who was meditating and began to speak. He asked him, "I'm sorry to tell you," the farmer said, "and sorry to disturb you, but I came to you. I was thinking that you are very lonely." He said, "Yes, I'm lonely. Now I'm lonely. Before you came, I was one with myself. But since you are here, I am lonely." That's it. So, you have your peace, but suddenly disturbances come from the outer world. Personal and impersonal problems, these are the disturbances. When there are many waves on the surface of a lake or a pond, you cannot see what is lying on the bottom. So these wave-shapers are at our intellectual level. Patañjali calls them vṛttis: chitta vṛtti nirodha—purify your chitta vṛttis. So when you have this in your intellect—emotional or any worldly problems or anything, illnesses, or with the parents and friends, and wars in the world, and this—all is a Vikṣepa. All the problems you have with your health, with your parents, with the situation in the world, with wars, all of that creates a mess. So when you can't see something on the surface, we put a glass window to break the waves, and you can look deep into it, and you will see what is inside. So, Vikṣepa. So, try to produce fewer problems. There are some people known as troublemakers. And some people have a profession of troublemaking. They are paid for it. Do you know that? You get a lot of money, but your duty is only to make trouble. You go to the prison also, but they will pay to free you from prison. But don't be the troublemaker. There are some people who cannot sleep unless they have created some trouble today. On the day without trouble, it is a trouble for that person. So she gets up at midnight and begins to argue with her husband to make trouble. "I throw you out of bed. Go and sleep in the kitchen," and quarreling. Or husband to the wife, and when there becomes trouble, then he or she is sleeping. So don't be a troublemaker. A troublemaker is that piece of iron which is always under the hammer. So Vikṣepa, disturbances, troubles. Only you can make a barrier of the window, meaning your mantra. In Lili Amrit, there is one story. One man came to Mahāprabhujī and said, "For so many years I have been practicing mantra and living a spiritual life. But still, I have so many thoughts; my mind is restless. What to do?" Mahāprabhujī said, "Tomorrow, when you meditate, give me your senses and your mind." It means that Mahāprabhujī said, "For a while, I put near you my mind and senses; let me meditate. Take care." The next day he came, he said, "I never had such a beautiful meditation. But as soon as I opened my eyes, all the feelings came back. Mahāprabhujī, is it possible that you take care of my senses and mind all the time?" He said, "Yes. Deposit it here." It means nothing is mine; everything is yours. When Holi Gurujī heard this, Holi Gurujī wrote a beautiful bhajana: Nirvairau nishankakabhimata dharna, teri Satguru dharna, Chintamata dharna. Nirvairau nishankakabhimata dharna... Vikṣepa. Troubles. Who doesn't have trouble? Even God has trouble. God is a big trouble, that he created this creation. And when he incarnates here, it will be more trouble. But there is a time when you enter into your inner peace, and you have your ātmā. Third, Āvaraṇa, a curtain of ignorance. Mahāprabhujī said, "You don't know, and you don't listen to the Master. What should God do to you?" Remove the āvaraṇa of ignorance. To remove the āvaraṇa of ignorance, the best way is satsaṅg. So, Mala, Vikṣepa, and Āvaraṇa. When these three are removed or purified, then you can see your Ātmā Svarūpa. You can see thy real self. That is immortal, but this curtain of ignorance we have to remove. If there's a curtain, you can't see what is outside the window. So, this curtain of ignorance is not easy to remove. We don't know, and we don't listen to others. And then we think negatively. Why? Why is my neighbor going with the other neighbor every day? It's not your problem. What is my neighbor doing? It's not your problem. That's one joke. You like it? One lady, about 95 years old—95 years young—she came to the police station and made a complaint against her neighbor. The neighbor was about 40 years old. And she made a complaint: "I don't accept this neighbor. He has no moral attitude. Just outside of his house, in his yard, he takes all his dress away and lies in the sun." So, the police called that man, and he said, "I'm surprised that she can see, because I have two-and-a-half-meter-high walls around. There's no window." So the police asked her, "Madam, he has such a boundary wall, so high—two and a half meters high—you can't see through." She said, "Yes, I can see when I take my ladder and put it there to climb up. I climb up and I see what he's doing." The police smiled, and said, "Please don't climb on the ladder. If you fall down, you will land in the hospital." So this is how we are thinking. We are trying to climb to see the negative because we can't think positively. Just now, here in front of me, you are sitting, and many of you are thinking different, negative thoughts. And you can feel it. I can feel it on my skin, very good. But I have orange color, so it doesn't go through. So when these three—Mala, Vikṣepa, and Āvaraṇa—are removed, then purity appears. Then, you see yourself, your own self. Śivo'ham—I am that pure consciousness, I am the Supreme. I am that Ātmā, and I am the Immortal One. Well, we are on the subject of the Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra. Mala, Vikṣepa, and Āvaraṇa—this is a cover over our unconscious and subconscious level. All the creatures on this planet cannot come over from these two chakras. Hate, jealousy, anger, revenge, and passion—this all is in other creatures too. And here in this chakra, the animal energy is too strong. It is not that you have a relation with your wife and husband or something like this. It is not prohibited. But what is your imagination about that? What were your feelings at that time? What is your behavior like—animals or what? How much suffering do you have? How many quarrels and problems do you have? And now, especially in this modern time, I think 99% of everyone has a partnership problem. There are very rare happy couples. I was very happy to congratulate yesterday one of our disciples; they celebrated their 40th anniversary of their marriage. And I wish I could also congratulate you on your 40th anniversary. But in many cases, I cannot, because I will not live 40 years, perhaps. But from above, I will look and say, "Blessing you." I will observe you. "Aha, what you are doing now." Because Gurudev can see everything through what you are dreaming. How are you sleeping? How are you thinking? What are your physical feelings, what are your mental feelings, what are your intellectual feelings? The vision of the Master is transparent. And our vision has this curtain, Māyā Śakti and Avidyā. But sometimes it is good not to have transparent visions, you know, because you immediately have to swallow something down. Okay. Anyhow, Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra—we saw yesterday a picture. And is there no Svādhiṣṭhāna slides, please? Do we have slides, Svādhiṣṭhāna? No. Okay. Well, our problem was what we call anger. And yesterday I gave you one exercise and a whole day to think over about your anger. Now you are a free human being, but it makes you angry. Can't you avoid it? Now, second thing: if you can't avoid it, then tell yourself, "Don't be angry." I had one disciple, and he immigrated to Australia, and he divorced here in Europe. And he married them. His habit was to come always two hours late. He phoned his wife, "I'm coming, and please prepare something to eat. We will eat at nine o'clock," and poor lady, she prepared everything. And he came at eleven. He said, "We will meet in the restaurant to eat at eight thirty." And he came at ten thirty, and always she's angry. So he told her, "Well, don't be angry. Take it easy. I come late. So you should also come two and a half hours late. Or you eat, go, and sleep. That's all. But don't be angry. You see, I come late. It's my mistake, but the biggest mistake is yours—that you are angry." So you see, sometimes the things which we cannot avoid, but then we have to say to ourself, take it as it is. There is another point about jealousy. Jealousy is something not easy to get rid of. In some stories, they said also even the goddesses have a jealousy, but not in that way as we are. Now, jealousy is there where there is no renunciation. Tyāga. Tyāga means renounce. Don't renounce because you cannot keep it; therefore, you throw it. But just renounce. As long as it is for me, it is with me. And then my car is somebody else's. Why should I be jealous when my neighbors look at my car? Or why should I be angry? Tyāga, renunciation. Where there is love, there is freedom. And where there is attachment, there is jealousy. Holy Gurujī said, "Enter the kingdom of the Lord through the gate of sacrifice." And Mahātmā Gāndhī said, "Renounce and enjoy. If you would like to be happy, then renounce." There is one story about a master and disciple, a real story. There were some countries, some parts, where there was a lot of gold. So he went to get the gold, but there were so many of these magic things. And the whole story I will not tell you. It's a beautiful story, an interesting story. That I will tell you in Strelka. Anyhow, it was difficult for that master to come back. They put him in difficult conditions through their magic. The disciple went to get the master. And the disciple, he had some more power. But master is master. Even if you are president of the country, father is father, mother is mother. So he went to bring the master, and he blocked all the black magic, and said, "Master, let's go." So the master was going, but he took eight kilos of gold with him, eight to ten kilos. And Master, when they came out of the border, still there was jungle, and Master tells disciple, "Let's run, let's go, it can be dangerous." And the disciple realized why the Master said it could be dangerous. And then he saw the Master is carrying ten kilos of gold. The disciple said, "Can I help you to have this?" The master said, "Yes. Take care. It can be very dangerous." They were going, and then he was touching what is inside. And he looked, and it was gold. The master said, "Let's go quickly. It can be dangerous." There was a very deep water well. So without knowing the master, the disciple threw gold into the water well. And Master said, "We must go quickly. It's dangerous." The disciple said, "Master, all dangers are in the water well." Whenever Master said, "It is not good here, it is very dangerous, we must go," he used to say, "Master, danger is far behind; it is in the water well." When they reached the destination, Master said, "Where is the gold?" "Master, that is a danger, and I threw it into the waterway. No, any dangers? Nobody will come and steal anything." So, jealousy is there with attachment and greediness. Therefore, renounce. You are yourself, Ātmā, and you came alone, and you will go alone. Only your karmas will go with you. The light of God is coming with you and going with you. Through your attachment, you are destroying the time of this life. So freedom. So open that chain from the leg of the pigeon and let it fly through the light. The window is open for you, and that's it. So the heaviness of this worldly burden, which keeps the Svādhiṣṭhāna chakra healthy, is not good for you. Well, Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra has beautiful qualities also, and that is supportive quality. There is happiness, there is a feeling of compassion, there is a light of confidence, there is the guidance of certainties there. And the bliss from Mūlādhāra Cakra, which is awakening, purifying the Svādhiṣṭhāna Cakra. It awakens the divine consciousness through the Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra. Animal energy is filtered there, and from there you get ātambal—your willpower. Where you begin your Kriyā Śakti. Kriyā Śakti means active, that you make a new Saṅkalpa: from today onwards, I will do this spirituality, and all other what is in my subconscious, I will root it out. My movements, my activities, my thinking, my words, my feelings, my life, my breath, my dreams, my sleep—all should awake in God consciousness. For Thee, O my Lord, everything awakes into the Mahāprabhujī. We should direct ourselves towards that, our feelings. Your Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra will be one of the best awakening experiences in your life. And then Svādhiṣṭhāna Chakra will bring one of the most beautiful feelings of awakening in your life. But if doubt comes, it will break the chain, and you will fall down again. Therefore, avoid Kusaṅga. Holy Gurujī says it in a bhajan. Holy Gurujī's bhajan: on every step of our life, there is a Kusaṅga. You can imagine there is a thorn lying, many, many thorns, and it is dark, and you have no shoes, and you have to run through these thorns. Now, who can protect us from stepping on a thorn? Only Mahāprabhujī. Only God.

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